On what grounds

[Bladewing]

are we not allowed to talk about manipulation CC's? Last time I checked they're a part of the game that affects every player.

 

Now I understand not allowing advertisements or recommending players to use them. But to forbid discussion? Go lock every other thread in General, because there's discussion of manipulation in them?

 

Now I know Tip.It probably won't change their stance on it, but I, if alone, am appalled by this attempt to censor legitimate discussion. Frankly I don't see any benefit to forbidding discussion on the matter.

 

PS: A sticky or something that more clearly defines what each of the subforums of Community Feedback are for would be great. :oops: if there already is one and I'm too thick to spot it.

[tripsis]

We do allow very general discussions about manipulation, so long as any specific clans are not mentioned. But if the discussion gets too specific, it will likely be locked as often time too many specifics can encourage manipulation even if that's not the intent. However, we do not permit the recruitment/advertisement of such clans, which is why your thread was locked.

 

As for your idea of a sticky, each of the forums do have a description that can be found on the forum index. I feel that these descriptions pretty clearly outline the purpose of each forum :) Is there anything that is particularly unclear? Either way, I feel a sticky is unnecessary since the forum descriptions would be read before a sticky anyway.

 

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[Saru Inc]

I believe it follows the spirit of the rule no naming players in a negative light?

[Sir_Squab]

After quickly skimming the forum rules, I saw no mention of not being allowed to name merchant clans, except for this:

 

Discussing how to cheat, hack, or otherwise manipulate the game

 

I don't like the idea of merchant CC's being mentioned anyways, but perhaps add/clarify this in the forum rules?

[tripsis]

After quickly skimming the forum rules, I saw no mention of not being allowed to name merchant clans, except for this:

 

Discussing how to cheat, hack, or otherwise manipulate the game

 

I don't like the idea of merchant CC's being mentioned anyways, but perhaps add/clarify this in the forum rules?

Well it is mentioned in the Recruitment Board Rules:

 

• Clans that work together to gain money via the grand exchange, through price manipulation or other means, may not be advertised here*. These include, but are not limited to:
  
  • merchanting clans
    
  • Investment clans
    
  • manipulation clans

  * - Whether or not your clan falls under these rules is determined at the moderator's discretion. If you disagree with a decision regarding your thread, please contact an administrator.

 

I suppose we could find a way to work it into the main forum rules.

[Laikrob]

Yes, it should be worked into the main rules aswell, and thank you for pointing out the lack of consistancy between the rules and enforcement. :)

 

To make it clear, we aren't just making up rules to be mean here - our users have several times (in example through polls on the main website) given the feedback that merchanting clans, which are mostly based off of manipulating GE and/or their lower ranked members, are not something they want to see around here. As tripsis also mentioned, several "general" discussions about merchanting clans or items often turn out to be hidden manipulation or advertising topics, and we do not want these forums to be used as a tool for such activity. As opposed to other grey areas in the game and outside that we DO allow - such as the newly updated RS cache policy - this is a thing that can affect players directly ingame, and they can in turn lose their hard earned GP because of merchanting clans. We do not wish to support or be a part of that, and the majority of our users are pleased about that stance. :)

 

Laikrob,

Tip.It Administrator

[Skeptical]

^ Well said.