wioneo Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I am going to stumble over 99 strength at some point or other and at that time, the only difference between aggressive and accurate(for weapons that have the options), will be the +3 attack or +3 strength. So which one is better over time for dealing damage? It would be great if it was not situational and I could just leave the setting on one or the other forever(after 99 def). Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 +X% average damage increasevs+X% max accuracy roll increase damage is always better ignoring rounding error scenarios. the question is what % increase +3 str lvls will give youand what % increase +3 atk lvls will give you as well. Obviously if you're lvl 99 strength, and lvl 3 attack+3 attack would almost +100% your max accuracy roll.whereas +3 strength would only give you about +3% average damage. equipment bonuses also makes a difference. but almost always, aggressive attack style is better even if your accuracy is below 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddude42 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Although I've always suspected the aggressive attack style hit just a little bit harder than accurate, I never had the exact numbers. Where did you find this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Although I've always suspected the aggressive attack style hit just a little bit harder than accurate, I never had the exact numbers. Where did you find this information? Last place that I clearly remember seeing it was on the actual attack style choice buttons in classic, but I'm pretty sure that it is also in the KB somewhere. Also, I was considering a situation with 99 attack/strength and the same equipment bonus. I'm not a member and can't check(easily), but I remember *normal* bonuses of around 130ish slash and 120ish strength, but those numebrs could be completely wrong. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The +3 str will apply to every hit (since it increases your average hit) you makeThe +3 accuracy will only make you hit less 0s. Since the str will help you more often, I'd say it's better to use. Personally, I keep them even, just because I like it that way :P Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The +3 str will apply to every hit (since it increases your average hit) you makeThe +3 accuracy will only make you hit less 0s. Since the str will help you more often, I'd say it's better to use. Personally, I keep them even, just because I like it that way :Pthat is such a bad way of thinking of it :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The +3 str will apply to every hit (since it increases your average hit) you makeThe +3 accuracy will only make you hit less 0s. Since the str will help you more often, I'd say it's better to use. Personally, I keep them even, just because I like it that way :Pthat is such a bad way of thinking of it :P Is it false? Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The +3 str will apply to every hit (since it increases your average hit) you makeThe +3 accuracy will only make you hit less 0s. Since the str will help you more often, I'd say it's better to use. Personally, I keep them even, just because I like it that way :Pthat is such a bad way of thinking of it :P Is it false?moreso a matter of being a vague. it could be true.But it would be far too difficult to prove it to be true, assuming it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 well how about this. If you aren't hitting 0sAggressive. Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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