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Now as far as i have seen, this hasn't been brought up. So my question is, augury vs soul split + leech magic

 

Which is better? Why?

 

The Ancient, i know you're reading this, show us some math

 

Also

 

Okay, another question, when is the optimal time to start using blood spells as opposed to ice spells?

 

Clearly ice hits harder, but blood heals

 

And if you are using normal prayers, and the other person is using soul split, should you switch to blood sooner?

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LOL you caught me

 

So leeches are:

+5% magic -10% to opponent <-- at start

+10% magic -25% to opponent <-- at end (~2 mins?)

 

Augury is 20% magic attack 25% magic defense

 

So leech vs ancient:

At first, augury is better

5%/5% vs 10%/15%

At end, leech is better

10%/10% vs -5%/0%

 

Not much math involved here, it obviously depends on how long the increase/leech effect takes, and I have no good idea of that speed.

Off the top of my head I would say augury is better.

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Want to have a good guess why it hasn't been brought out? Yeah...i'm really sick about all these misconceptions about staking. People disallow ANYTHING they aren't 1000% sure about and don't stake people whose stats/weapons/whatever they aren't sure about.

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Want to have a good guess why it hasn't been brought out? Yeah...i'm really sick about all these misconceptions about staking. People disallow ANYTHING they aren't 1000% sure about and don't stake people whose stats/weapons/whatever they aren't sure about.

 

Yeah this is totally true, I should have mentioned it in my post

 

But for the first day at least, there's a bunch of random noobs you can take advantage of

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Okay, another question, when is the optimal time to start using blood spells as opposed to ice spells?

 

Clearly ice hits harder, but blood heals

 

Edit: And if you are using normal prayers, and the other person is using soul split, should you switch to blood sooner?

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to model that situation well you'd need to use markov chains. grimy has a semi-working model on it; i don't (and don't plan on working on one). you should ask grimy to work on his model and then tell you.

 

no one is realistcally gonna have overheads in a proper mage duel. but just for clarity, i'm pretty sure mage pray > ss.

 

also back in the day people used shadow (smoke? i forgot) instead of ice. one is more accurate than the other.

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From personal experiences, if you hybrid / tribrid (and have no melee) I think modern is slightly better. But yeah, I really wouldn't be surprised if curses come out on top in a long mage-only batle.

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It's frustrating reading these staking posts from people who have never staked in their lives. They're fretting about things which are inconsequential :\

 

I have infact, staked quite a lot. However you're right about not staking with magic. I never really had the levels to do it and i'll be the first to admit that. Hence why i'm now trying to gather information on variables i can control. If i can control said variables, i can improve my chances.

Clearly an old school mage staker will out do me; but one has to start somewhere, no?

I could just go back to melee boxing if i really wanted too, but i want to explore, well, another avenue i guess.

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It's frustrating reading these staking posts from people who have never staked in their lives. They're fretting about things which are inconsequential :\

 

I have infact, staked quite a lot. However you're right about not staking with magic. I never really had the levels to do it and i'll be the first to admit that. Hence why i'm now trying to gather information on variables i can control. If i can control said variables, i can improve my chances.

Clearly an old school mage staker will out do me; but one has to start somewhere, no?

I could just go back to melee boxing if i really wanted too, but i want to explore, well, another avenue i guess.

 

You're going down the wrong path though. You're trying to control the wrong variables.

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It's frustrating reading these staking posts from people who have never staked in their lives. They're fretting about things which are inconsequential :\

 

I have infact, staked quite a lot. However you're right about not staking with magic. I never really had the levels to do it and i'll be the first to admit that. Hence why i'm now trying to gather information on variables i can control. If i can control said variables, i can improve my chances.

Clearly an old school mage staker will out do me; but one has to start somewhere, no?

I could just go back to melee boxing if i really wanted too, but i want to explore, well, another avenue i guess.

 

You're going down the wrong path though. You're trying to control the wrong variables.

 

So with mage staking, why should i be looking at exactly?

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It's frustrating reading these staking posts from people who have never staked in their lives. They're fretting about things which are inconsequential :\

 

I have infact, staked quite a lot. However you're right about not staking with magic. I never really had the levels to do it and i'll be the first to admit that. Hence why i'm now trying to gather information on variables i can control. If i can control said variables, i can improve my chances.

Clearly an old school mage staker will out do me; but one has to start somewhere, no?

I could just go back to melee boxing if i really wanted too, but i want to explore, well, another avenue i guess.

 

You're going down the wrong path though. You're trying to control the wrong variables.

 

So with mage staking, why should i be looking at exactly?

 

Stats/equipment/spell choices are basically potluck. It's about choosing your opponents carefully and figuring out how much to stake them at what times.

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