Well I'd always been told that range was the best method to use but recently I have been hearing a lot of people who sound very keen on meleeing the caves even at slightly lower combat levels. As far as I understand this involves killing everything with melee normally and sidestepping the 360's. I have tried the caves twice and found sidestepping the 360's slightly difficult and took two pretty nasty hits 300+ however I'm sure I can improve with more practice if its worth it. However I was thinking about meleeing everything and then swapping to range for the 360's and Jad - sensible? Also do I need an EE or EEE (not going to get the herb level for that very soon) to melee effectively or will an sgs/guthans do?

 

Right my levels are: 80 attack, 81 stength, 80 defence, 83 hitpoints, 75 range - will get this higher if needed.

 

So if it would be sensible to melee the caves what would my setup and inventory be. As regards to gear I already posses I have a whip guthans and veracs barrows sets a sgs that I can have on longterm loan from a friend. Fury and zerker + 20m I'm prepared to spend on gear. Anyway slightly rambling post I'm sorry but all help is appreciated.

Yes it would be sensible to melee them, you can sell sgs/guthans/veracs for bandos and use that (which will increase your damage output everywhere).

 

Ranging is not even (that much) less clicking than meleeing because you have to do a 3-item switch every time you kill the 360 and back. So yeah, improving on sidestepping is definitely worth it.

Just one question, did you make it to Jad in either of those attempts? What specifically stopped you?

Basically I wasn't trying very hard and it was the 360's that fluffed my attempts I was sidestepping them but messed up and the sgs healing wasn't really doing enough and I was running low on brews so I didn't really think it was worth carrying on that much further as I wouldn't be able to do Jad with the resources I had left. My second attempt I got to wave 52. This was really one of my main points should I just use brews to heal in which case how many should I take or do I need an EE/SGS/Guthans to help me out? And also to Quyneax I'd be perfectly prepared to buy bandos to do the caves but would probably sell it afterwards as although I'm sure it will increase my damage output but right now as my bank isn't massive 120m ish I would rather spend the 40 odd mill bandos costs on training herblore, prayer and other skills that will enable me to make more cash later on - the thing about the SGS its not mine its a friends but he can loan it to me for 24 hours if I ever want it so I can't sell that to buy bandos otherwise I would :)

Well the very best would be to learn how to melee the caves. Guthans is overkill for healing if you are good at sidestepping, SGS/EE should be fine. It's all about luring, sidestepping and correct prayers. The caves can be done without any food at all.

 

I suggest go all out melee, learn how to do it properly, and don't worry as much about food as it shouldn't be a big issue unless you mess up a lot.

 

Jad shouldn't take much food, you should be prayer swapping versus him. Otherwise he will likely KO you.

In regards to weapons would I use a whip with d def as my weapon set up or a more powerful weapon e.g: godsword. Only reason I would think godsword is that sidestepping the 360's means that as you are reattacking everytime the weapon speed doesn't make so much of a difference am I right here or am I wrong?

In regards to weapons would I use a whip with d def as my weapon set up or a more powerful weapon e.g: godsword. Only reason I would think godsword is that sidestepping the 360's means that as you are reattacking everytime the weapon speed doesn't make so much of a difference am I right here or am I wrong?

Well if you are good, you can attack once for every attack by the 360, and they attack at whip speed. With a godsword you would lose half your attack turns.

 

Of course a godsword is always less powerful than a whip.

Ok right so what should my invent look like in terms of brews, restores and prayer pots?

2 Pure Sets, EE/EEE, 6 Brews, 3 Restores, rest P Pots.

Well, assuming sgs specs, 3 pure sets, 4 brew, 4 restore, rest pray pots.

Right thanks I'll let you know how it goes :P

Well, assuming sgs specs, 3 pure sets, 4 brew, 4 restore, rest pray pots.

Or this. :P

Well thanks for the advice guys went quite well I died on Jad but got much better at side stepping and should be able to go a lot smoother and quicker next time. I'm a bit annoyed as my mouse literally missed the button rather than missing a prayer switch but ah well will be better next time :D