SirHartlar Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I personally don't think RS has anything majorally wrong with it, but some things could be added to make seem a little more special. For example, ethnic cultures could be added as part of the game. This could unveil a whole host of ideas, new quests, weapons and holiday events. Imagine being able to help out with a Barmitzfah if you're Jewish or celebrating the the Hindu festival of light. Of course, all these things would obviously take a long time to sort out and after all it is only an idea. I think it would be nice to show some appreciation to people who maybe don't celebrate Christmas or Easter. Jagex is an English company, but England isn't a 100% Christian country is it? I'm not saying Jagex are racist, but the game could have whole new dimensions developed into it through different cultures. I doubt my idea will ever be developed, but I would like your views on it. Thanks for taking the time to read my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I think one of the reasons it hasn't happened is due to who works in the company. My only guess is, and I stress it's a guess, that Jagex doesn't have any Jews, Muslims etc, or not a significant number, in their production team. Therefore, if they were to create these holidays, they'd be largely guessing as to what they truely entail as they are not part of the culture. This could cause them to be vague or inadvertendly come across as offensive, despite their good intentions. To summarise, it could cause more problems, but that's only one scenario. Plus, the way England is now is just super politically correct, it's ridiculous. For example, over christmas, christmas lights, in some county's councils, were proposed to be changed to 'festive lights'. In some ASDA stores, checkout cashiers weren't allowed to say merry christmas, instead they had to say seasons greetings. The reason? Supposedly, people of different cultures and ethnicity would be offended, yet there has not been one reported case of any Muslim leader, Jewish follower etc. reporting oppression and religious insult over christmas. It's ridiculous, people say they're protecting ethnic minorities, who don't want protecting from it at all as they see no harm in it, nor do I, as a white caucasian, take offence to Ramadan, Hannukah or anything like that. Gone a bit off topic, haven't I? :oops: I'll end here. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubed_boid Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I think one of the reasons it hasn't happened is due to who works in the company. My only guess is, and I stress it's a guess, that Jagex doesn't have any Jews, Muslims etc, or not a significant number, in their production team. Therefore, if they were to create these holidays, they'd be largely guessing as to what they truely entail as they are not part of the culture. This could cause them to be vague or inadvertendly come across as offensive, despite their good intentions. To summarise, it could cause more problems, but that's only one scenario. Plus, the way England is now is just super politically correct, it's ridiculous. For example, over christmas, christmas lights, in some county's councils, were proposed to be changed to 'festive lights'. In some ASDA stores, checkout cashiers weren't allowed to say merry christmas, instead they had to say seasons greetings. The reason? Supposedly, people of different cultures and ethnicity would be offended, yet there has not been one reported case of any Muslim leader, Jewish follower etc. reporting oppression and religious insult over christmas. It's ridiculous, people say they're protecting ethnic minorities, who don't want protecting from it at all as they see no harm in it, nor do I, as a white caucasian, take offence to Ramadan, Hannukah or anything like that. Gone a bit off topic, haven't I? :oops: I'll end here. Wow, you just summed up everything everyone really could have said. It's like that in our ASDAs also.. heh If we had such religious events in Runescape, it may well ruin the purpous of Runescape having its' own gods. I can see where you are coming from, trying to make the game best for all religions, but Jagex has stated that it only celebrates "mainstream" holidays (those of which being : Easter, Halloween and Christmas). The reason for this is because it is what the majority celebrates. Even though they could implement other religions holidays, I can see it would be some what under-used? I don't mean to offend also, but you sound like your trying to be a tad politically correct. That's all I can think of saying at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Yes... the three holidays that are celebrated - Easter, Halloween and Christmas - may well have religious connotations for some people, but they also exist, quite seperately, as social and cultural holidays outside of any religious framework. As such, the manner in which Jagex implements them in game - devoid of religious interpretation - is a commonsense and inoffensive way in which to spread a little holiday cheer without worrying about offending anybody's religious sensibilities. To incorporate religious festivals into the runescape world would be opening up a minefield of guesswork and assumption that would only lead to complaints and criticism. No-one can complain about festive imps - people could very well complain if it seemed as though Jagex were mocking their religious traditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 ^ Well said, especially on the Easter, Christmas bit being recognised as a universal holiday as well as a religious event. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stricken Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Personally Id like to have my virtual bar mitzvah and help Moses split the sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gafgarion Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Halloween a religious holiday, maybe if your satanist that is :roll: TA: Tea Drinker's Anonymous Delectable tea or deadly poison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Halloween a religious holiday, maybe if your satanist that is :roll: It was started by Christians to overshadow various pagan events that happened around the same time, as well as to celebrate the harvest. Nice try, though. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indizle Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Halloween a religious holiday, maybe if your satanist that is :roll: It was started by Christians to overshadow various pagan events that happened around the same time, as well as to celebrate the harvest. Nice try, though. same thing with Christmas. The papacy decided to designate the 25th as the birth of Christ so that a winter celebration could be enacted to counter the Winter Solstice of the Pagans, for they feared Christians would leave and join the pagans due to a lack of fesitivites in the winter season. And Bubsa, its not like that just in the UK, until this Christmas, the government wasnt allowed to call the National Christmas tree a Christmas tree; rather, they called it a Holiday Tree. Also, schools are not allowed to have Christmas decorations in my area, only "holiday" decorations. I personally, as a Hindu, do not feel bad that the festival of lights (called Diwali for those who care) is not celebrated in Runescape; heck, before that I would have to be offended that people kill cows left and right, and there is an emphasis on the consumption of meats to heal over vegetables. I am not offended by any of this simply becaue I play Runescape to get away from my everyday life. I do not come to be politically correct and recognize ever major religion, I play to have fun. Also, thhe point of having a separate religion in runescape was to help create a interesting "history" and storyline for NPC's and quests. Add in too many religious connotations, and as a previous poster said, you diminish the purpose of this separate history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Halloween a religious holiday, maybe if your satanist that is :roll: It's usually a good idea to get your facts straight before running your mouth off. Satanists do not celebrate Halloween, however Wiccans do celebrate the equinox that falls around this time. Halloween also has Christian roots, the word itself being a contraction of "All Hallows Eve" - being the night before All Souls Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgbcowboy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I like the idea of etheticity but because we are safley assuming that the mojority (50%+) of jagex are chistian might make some mistakes in the other religouns and cause problems. But i don't think it may if jagex were to make a holiday based on a religion they are not familiar to im sure they would reserch it thougthly and have it cheaked by people of that religioun and reaserched by them before releasing it to the public. Well instead of incorparating other religous holidays why not just "scrap" all the current holiday theme's christmas, easter, halloweene and create holidays based on the gods of runescape Sardomin, Guthix and Zamrock? But incorporte more ethhenticity aswell like a eastern based town or area put in like the al-karid area which seem's to me as a middle-eastern type place? Im also aware that runescape is written in english and most people are who speak english have religouns and people who don't speak english also have religiouns but might not have runescape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgd1788 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I think it would create an indifference with the people of those ethnic backgrounds, Jagex tries not to offend people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfie76 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Im also aware that runescape is written in english and most people are who speak english have religouns and people who don't speak english also have religiouns but might not have runescape. That may well be the dumbest thing I have ever seen written anywhere, by anyone. Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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