A littany of Bossing Questions.

[Slayer_Jesse]

Hey there Tip.It. Now that I've been back for awhile, I feel comfortable to start really bossing again. However There's a couple new bosses, plus hard mode GWD and some other stuff. So I'm a little lost, lol.

 

I'm going to list off my gear and stats and we'll go from there on each one.

 

Goals: Drygore main and offhand longswords, enough cash for 90 smithing and Tetsu. (long term 99 pray and herblore)

Current gp: 3m (i lost a good chunk of change before i quit. If needed i can farm frost dragons for supply cash.)

 

Stats:

Attack, Strength, Defense, Hp, Magic: 99

Range, Prayer, Summoning: 96

Herblore: 95

 

Gear:

 

Melee:

Full bandos (minus helm)

Chaotic long, offhand rapier, maul

Fury

Tokhar-zur...zull... Advanced fire cape :P

6th Age Circuit

 

Magic:

Full gano

Chaotic Staff

Saradomin cape

Warpreist boots and gloves (not sure if barrows are better than priest gloves)

Arcane Stream Necklace

6th Age Circuit

 

Range:

Royal dhide. (sad i know.)

Dual chaotic crossbows

6th Age Circuit

Warpreist boots and gloves

Fury

Ava's Alerter

 

Gear questions:

1: Are the subjugation robes any good?

2: seeing as the only t80 magic dual wields are nex, and i cant afford that, are the t70's worth it over chaotic staff?

3: What range armor should i be shooting for?

 

So, boss questions.

1: how much better is loot in hard mode gwd, and what size teams should i be aiming for with sara and bandos?

2: is solo normal sara viable now?

3: Never done nex, always wanted to. What kind of gear will i need, and should i max range 1st?

4: Given my stats and gear, what style should i try QBD with?

5: Same as 4, except KK. also what size team will i need?

6: same as 5, but Vorago.

7: Would you recommend getting keystones over any of these methods? How many keys do i need to boss effectively?

[Levells]

Gear questions:

1: Are the subjugation robes any good? as the only affordable damage boosting magic robes, yes they are good

2: seeing as the only t80 magic dual wields are nex, and i cant afford that, are the t70's worth it over chaotic staff? as cool as dual wield is, it is not worth dropping 10 levels

3: What range armor should i be shooting for? karil's in the short term, arma/pernix long term. death lotus is also nice as an option and for soloing arma

 

So, boss questions.

1: how much better is loot in hard mode gwd, and what size teams should i be aiming for with sara and bandos? almost same exact loot, don't bother

2: is solo normal sara viable now? depends and I don't have the answer with your gear tbh. I don't know if gano is decent enough to last w/ staff. I use tetsu and dual drygores, don't need the shield. You might need one, though.

3: Never done nex, always wanted to. What kind of gear will i need, and should i max range 1st? Bandos is fine, but I don't know if most teams take anyone with chaotics anymore (I personally find that a 4-5 person team, mixed drygore/chaotic does horrible and kills are much sloppier, but I don't know if forums/random people share the same thought). Don't bother worrying about range, you only (optionally) range part of her last phase.

4: Given my stats and gear, what style should i try QBD with? You've got lvl 80 for all gear, so I don't think it really matters. Only thing to tip the scales is that you've got bandos to add some extra dps if you melee.

5: Same as 4, except KK. also what size team will i need? there seem to be a few methods groups use, (drygore) melee only, mage only, and hybrid/tribrid (w/ range swap for mage phase at the least)

6: same as 5, but Vorago. Still yet to go to Vorago.....

7: Would you recommend getting keystones over any of these methods? How many keys do i need to boss effectively? if you mean the keystones for ascension crossbows, can't help you. Did it first day, never went back.

 

Answers in bold, let me know if there's anything else.

[Quyneax]

As for 7, only hunt keystones if that's your highest gp/h activity.

 

You can try glacors a bit for added charms, but you need to kill about a thousand to get the staff, which is a good part of the overall profit. Still, a smaller investment than ascension crossbows.

[Slayer_Jesse]

whats the gp/h of crossbows? i know bossing is random but id like to get a comparison point.

[Quyneax]

1/64 for signets.

Each kill requires one keystone.

64 * [total price of one of each keystone] = ~200m ge med price.

One crossbow = 265m ge med price.

65m profit for 6 * 64 = 384 kills.

So about 170k profit per kill, excluding supplies and miscellaneous drops. Say 200k profit?

 

I don't know the kills/hour for sure, but I believe it's fairly high - 20+ certainly. But you may need to bank a lot, with the keystones not being stackable and such.

[Levells]

Less, since you left out the lovely dragon crossbow :P something like 20m?

And since all the signets are untradeable, you really need to finish what you started, or its like throwing your money away.

 

Edit: Ascensions have also been dropping a fair bit, sell point is ~221-222m

So, Q's 65m profit drops to ~20m. Of course, since signets are luck based, I've seen people end up with 100m+ profit but it's very easy to go bankrupt with them. I'm pretty sure I've seen a few people in the Screenies thread say they had to get bailed out by friends b/c they ran out of money.

[Quyneax]

Damn I knew I forgot something, the 4m+/h profit seemed way too high. Yeah, pretty bad profit. Keys are probably lower than advertised too, if the crossbow is that much lower.

 

The people who got bailed out mostly had problems with the signet bug, where they wouldn't drop if the Legione was killed standing over a grate - your bad luck has to be more extreme than that to go through those streaks again, although you still need 300m reserve to start getting a crossbow I guess.