Back after over 10 years.. *phew* Help me get used to RS again please.

[baklava]

Okay so wow. I've been so long since I played RS.

 

Sure, not TEN YEARS but it's been probably about 5 or so.

 

The last significant update they did when I played, was when they added Summoning.

I logged in today and saw that there's even new skills such as Divination etc.

 

I can't believe how much the game has changed. Frankly I lost total interest in playing it when it started to become like so many other Pay-2-Win games and the started complicating the combat system.

It was around the time that health went from 0/99 to 0/990

I felt at the time that it's been so badly ruined. Like they tried to change it and make it 'better' to stop people from leaving, but then inadvertently made it worse and tons of people still left.

 

Anyway, please help me get used to this game again. There's so much difference now really. Wow.

 

My in-game character is 'Suomi Angst'.

 

I would like to start playing again, and I will buy a membership.

In game I would focus on:

 

1. Making some money quickly.

2. Buying some good gear and armour. (The last 'best thing' I remember was the Abyssal whip).

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3. Maxing out Attack, Str, Def, etc.

4. <I can work the rest out from here I think>

 

Please tell me the absolute best ways to do this for someone my level.

I felt that they used to be. Max prayer > Ape Atoll > Farm gorillas. (Is this still a good idea or are there far better ways?) It wouldn't hurt to make some money at the same time.

 

I'm 115 (F2P) combat.

 

Also have certain enemies like Green Drags and Abyssal Demons had a damage buff? Like if I go attack stuff with 5 year old gear.

Like full set of Bandos or something, will I get 'rekt' immediately?

 

Thanks a lot.

Please also mention any other tips or info you can. Thanks.

 

[Arceus]

Hello, welcome to TIF!  :)

 

Well, guess it's been a while since you played :P. If you're interested, there is an 'Old School' version of the game that has much of the content from around 2007 that you can play. Unfortunately, you have to start from scratch there: all skills at level 1, no bank. Unless you're really into PK'ing or loved the old combat system that much, I wouldn't recommend it. I just thought I'd let you know though, just in case you wanted to take a peek!

 

The good news for you is that Evolution of Combat really made things easier rather than more difficult. Experience in combat skills can be gained much faster. Common training monsters in terms of pure xp are things like hellhounds (afk melee) and waterfiends (more for Ranged and used for charm farming). If you want to make some money along the way, you can kill dragons for money, or do Slayer, which is generally regarded as a great way to train as it helps mix things up and you get xp in another skill "for free" as you train combat.

 

If you want to get more used to the combat system, I recommend you either set up Revolution or try Legacy mode for the time being.

 

I am not too familiar with the Ape Atoll method you mentioned. I think it's something popular on Old School, chinning them or something? I think Waterfiend killing has outpaced it on RS3 though.

 

For most purposes, the standard GWD armor - Bandos for melee, Armadyl for ranged, and Subjugation for magic - is sufficient. That is effectively the best armor you can get without going into higher tier, degradable armor. That armor is mainly only useful for higher end boss killing, so probably not something to worry about right away.

 

If you could mention the rest of your stats or provide a stat signature it would help to suggest some other things you should try out. For example, there are a bunch of Dungeoneering rewards that were added, even after the originals, that will be quite helpful to you as you level up combat. The charming imp is one, and it will automatically collect charms from monsters as you kill them. It saves a lot of time in the long run when you are collecting charms for Summoning. Also if you have a high Slayer level already, there are higher level Slayer creatures that are probably more lucrative than regular dragons. If you have 85 Dungeoneering, you can hunt down Frost Dragons and pull down a consistent few million per hour.

 

There's also a whole new skill called Divination I recommend you try it. It can be kind of boring to train (or so I'm told), but it does unlock some nice benefits. In particular (although they are tradeable so you don't technically need to train the skill for them), you can get Signs of the Porter to bank a certain number of items automatically. There are some restrictions on it though.

 

I'm also moving your topic to Help & Advice as it's better suited here and you will likely receive more advice here :). If you want to make another thread in Introductions for the purpose of introducing yourself though, feel free!

[baklava]

Thanks a lot for the reply mate!

 

Here are my stats:

 

I put my name in the first post so people could check leaderboard but anyway there are my stats.

 

I would really like to max out all combat skills first. Prayer isn't so important but I definitely want maxed out combat. I know that I am pretty close to getting it done.

 

I know there are things like Spring Cleaner and other Gnomish devices and things for small amounts of exp but are they even worth using? I mean like I'd love to train more things than once but I don't want to have to leave an area for nothing.

 

So whole areas of the game have been replaced by newer ones? I mean that, in like, it's no longer worth it going to older areas?

 

I know that a lot of people liked training on these zombie things once. You had to start a quest to be able to go to the area with them, and I think the entrance was in the wildi but if you could get there with some noob armor and then go down a ladder it wasn't wildi anymore and you could kill these zombies for exp. They had a lot of health or something and they dropped runes or at least something else, I don't remember what.

 

Are there any updated leveling guides or anything on this site? I suppose I'll go have a look for them.

 

Ape Atoll method was well. You start monkey madness. Put on your best prayer gear (you're using prayer here so good gear doesn't matter). Something like 'Gilded White' would be fine, or even just monk robes. Then put on your best attack stuff. Fury, whip, dragon defender etc. Then go to where the Gorillas are in Ape Atoll and basically just kill them with maxed out prayer stats. You would protect from melee and then just slaughter gorillas. They had a high defence but really high HP. I guess there would be better ways now. But that was a way for people to train literally from like 55 to 99 back in the day without you even needing any money. The only downside was that you had to start monkey madness and do it for awhile and you had to survive getting there (if you hadn't finished the quest and got the teleport for the place) and you also had to make sure you didn't accidentally let your prayer run out because you got hit like a truck and they could corner you and kill you. Dying almost always meant that if you hadn't finished the quest and couldn't teleport there, that you had no chance of getting your items back. Plus you couldn't make any money there, they just dropped 'monkey bones' which give the tiniest amount of prayer exp.

 

Could you point me to a guide with waterfiends? Is the areas packed?

 

How many people still play this game, are places with Yew Trees and stuff still completely packed? I heard that Jagex removed a lot of worlds to push people together. So it's about the same. I think the most people I ever saw online was like 112,000 back when I played.

Looks like there's only 36,000 people playing now. Wow.....

 

Anyway basically I want to level up my Melee first, get some money and then go about leveling up other skills like Hunting and stuff.

So any help on combat and money making would be great.

 

P.S. Funnily enough one of the main reasons that made me consider coming back is the fact that they FINALLY after like 5 years finished Priffdinas. I wanted more than anything to get into that place. I spent like 60% of my time on my entire account in Llyeta and I'll finally get to see what it's like inside there now.

[Opieous]

1. Figure out how the new combat works

2. Start slaying like crazy

 

you'll get good money and combat exp and should get you on track as you'll be going all over the place to reach to assignments.

 

Use the best armour n weapon you can buy. What does the bank look like?

[Arceus]

Oh sorry about that, it must not have registered when I saw your name. In any case thanks for posting that, makes it easier than flipping between pages anyway ;).

 

I'm not sure if you're familiar with it or you were away, but Ancient Curses are generally used quite a bit. In particular, Soul Split (92 Prayer) is quite useful - it heals you as you damage your opponents. There are then a few others at 95 that are good for other situations. 95-99 does not offer much further benefit but it is nice to max out.

 

Spring Cleaner is worth using if you have it, but not for the reason you might think. The convert to experience option is actually totally useless as a practical matter, since you get so little out of it. Instead, you can select to receive the original materials from weaponry and armour that you receive as drops instead of the drops themselves, and what's more, they are automatically sent to your bank. So for a bunch of adamant/rune stuff it can be worthwhile and get you more out of your Slayer trips.

 

Have whole areas of the game been replaced by others? That's kind of hard to say, but in general I don't think so. I mean the training methods may have changed slightly but it's not like we built 5 new continents and abandoned everything. Mostly, new and faster training methods have entered the game.

 

I think you are referring to Armoured Zombies. I think they may still be useful for training, although you should keep in mind that with EoC, xp is now awarded per kill rather than per amount of damage done. So ideally, you want to kill stuff that has less Constitution XP but awards more XP. As for which monsters give how much XP - you just have to look that up. There's no way (that we've been able to ascertain!) to figure it out from level or otherwise.

 

As for updated guides - somewhat. Some of the stuff on our site is a little outdated, although we try to keep up with stuff. I'm not sure if you saw this announcement, but if you might be interested in helping, feel free to check it out.

 

That is quite interesting with Ape Atoll, but I think with 100% protection prayers gone, it's probably less effective. You could probably still farm it for some experience though.

 

You could start with RS Wiki's page for Waterfiends, although it seems a little lacking. They give recommendations for the absolute best gear in the game rather than focusing on the practicality of options sometimes. The general idea for EoC is set up ability bar, bring your best gear (that you can afford to repair, if it's going to degrade), and just smash away. I think in general it may take some time to find a good spot to yourself, yeah.

 

It's hard to say how many people still play. Yew trees are so horrible in terms of profit that even the bots gave up (just kidding, they got banned). They did ban a lot more aggressively though and managed to push out a bunch of adbots out of the game to get control on it a bit more. Though as I write this, my PM is flooded again...

 

 

But I digress. A bunch of them apparently left with EoC, some left to go pursue PK'ing or just enjoy the "Old School" experience in '07, and another good fraction were bots that had overrun the game. I think that more or less covers it. As for world removing, they basically did a cheap trick and made about a third of the remaining F2P worlds into P2P. Perhaps even longer ago, they did remove some worlds, but I can't remember.

 

And oh yes Elf City...definitely get in there! You'll enjoy it and it has AFK options for a lot of skills.

[Saru Inc]

1. Figure out how the new combat works

2. Start slaying like crazy

 

you'll get good money and combat exp and should get you on track as you'll be going all over the place to reach to assignments.

 

Use the best armour n weapon you can buy. What does the bank look like?

This, this, a thousand times this.

 

Evolution of Combat (the new combat system) is a lot to take in at first. However, the overwhelming majority of players who come back from quits and learn EOC LOVE it. For starters, Magic has become extremely cheap to use. Second, Mage/Range are now just as powerful as melee. (Though Melee is of course a wee bit stronger).

Watch this video on learning the basics of it. Set up your ability bar with Revolution. This vid should explain how. (Revolution uses your abilities automatically while fighting, so you don't have to click them manually).

(it is 20 minutes long, but iirc he explains everything thoroughly so...)

 

Slayer XP is a much faster skill than before - it no longer is a 1:1 hp to slayer xp ratio.

 

I'm absotuely always willing to take people monster hunting who are back from quits etc to show them the ropes. Let me know if you wanna go. (though the next few days I'm stuck at Livid Farm finishing up the Comp Cape)

[Saru Inc]

edit: also monster hunting is MUCH easier than it used to be - and the death system is completely reworked. I don't remember if gravestones were out in 2008, but if you're unfamiliar with them, when you die your loot drops in a 'gravestone' for 40 minutes that no one can access but you. So no  need to fret just teleport back to where you were and you can safely loot your items. For that reason, I urge all people coming back to "take risks" at Monster hunting - if you die at Dag kings, you can get into Water Birth dungeon solo now so you can easily get back in.

 

If I'm being a bit forward, it's because I've had many long breaks from RS, and I know how overwhelming it can be to come back to years and years of changes. (I quit 2010-2013, then mid 2013-early 2014, then mid 2014 to january 2015, lol)

[baklava]

 

Use the best armour n weapon you can buy. What does the bank look like?

 

Bank looks really bad. Nothing but a few runes, loads of holiday items (egg ring etc) and some other silly stuff. Almost all of it is useless, got about 50k gold lol a full set of rune armor with scim and kite shield. Pretty much nothing else. I could probably barely get 1mil for all of my stuff. I'll have to probably start from scratch and make some money from Fishing or Woodcutting. I used to farm Ranarrs for money, made so much too because I had teleports to all of the herb plots. Dunno if it's a valid method any more.

 

 

1. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it or you were away, but Ancient Curses are generally used quite a bit. In particular, Soul Split (92 Prayer) is quite useful - it heals you as you damage your opponents. There are then a few others at 95 that are good for other situations. 95-99 does not offer much further benefit but it is nice to max out.

 

2. Spring Cleaner is worth using if you have it, but not for the reason you might think. The convert to experience option is actually totally useless as a practical matter, since you get so little out of it. Instead, you can select to receive the original materials from weaponry and armour that you receive as drops instead of the drops themselves, and what's more, they are automatically sent to your bank. So for a bunch of adamant/rune stuff it can be worthwhile and get you more out of your Slayer trips.

 

3. Have whole areas of the game been replaced by others? That's kind of hard to say, but in general I don't think so. I mean the training methods may have changed slightly but it's not like we built 5 new continents and abandoned everything. Mostly, new and faster training methods have entered the game.

 

4. I think you are referring to Armoured Zombies. I think they may still be useful for training, although you should keep in mind that with EoC, xp is now awarded per kill rather than per amount of damage done. So ideally, you want to kill stuff that has less Constitution XP but awards more XP. As for which monsters give how much XP - you just have to look that up. There's no way (that we've been able to ascertain!) to figure it out from level or otherwise.

 

5. That is quite interesting with Ape Atoll, but I think with 100% protection prayers gone, it's probably less effective. You could probably still farm it for some experience though.

 

6. You could start with RS Wiki's page for Waterfiends, although it seems a little lacking. They give recommendations for the absolute best gear in the game rather than focusing on the practicality of options sometimes. The general idea for EoC is set up ability bar, bring your best gear (that you can afford to repair, if it's going to degrade), and just smash away. I think in general it may take some time to find a good spot to yourself, yeah.

 

7. It's hard to say how many people still play. Yew trees are so horrible in terms of profit that even the bots gave up (just kidding, they got banned). They did ban a lot more aggressively though and managed to push out a bunch of adbots out of the game to get control on it a bit more. Though as I write this, my PM is flooded again...

 

 

8. But I digress. A bunch of them apparently left with EoC, some left to go pursue PK'ing or just enjoy the "Old School" experience in '07, and another good fraction were bots that had overrun the game. I think that more or less covers it. As for world removing, they basically did a cheap trick and made about a third of the remaining F2P worlds into P2P. Perhaps even longer ago, they did remove some worlds, but I can't remember.

 

9. And oh yes Elf City...definitely get in there! You'll enjoy it and it has AFK options for a lot of skills.

 

1. My prayer isn't THAT high! I dunno about how easy it is to level these days but once it WAS the most expensive thing in the game to train and one of the slowest.

2. Where do you get charges for the Spring Cleaner? Getting addy bars from Addy scims or whatever sounds like a REALLY nice thing, however it says that it can fail sometimes and give nothing. That could suck.

3. That's good, I love all these old areas so I don't want them replaced by new ones or some mini-game where people can just max out a skill in a day...

4. Yes I was referring to Armored Zombies. Wow so now it's all about level?  That kind of sucks.. I mean I suppose it's fair enough but I think it was much easier how it was before and if there's no definitive way to know how much exp most things give now, then it'll make things confusing for me...

5. Wow you're right I totally didn't realise that 100% protection prayers are gone. That blows! I mean I can understand why they removed but them aargggh that's so annoying haha! I know there are other prayers now that defend against 2 types of attacks or something but man that really stinks. Ape Atoll DEFINITELY wouldn't be a good place to train any more now then as you can't get food there pretty much at all.

6. Thanks, I'll focus on making some money first and see if it's worth taking something degradable there. Might just opt for a full set of dragon, although much more expensive in the long run. I can't remember how much it was to fix Bandos, I think with the Armor repairer in your own house it was like 140k if you were maxed or something. It wasn't much.

7. Wow nuts, yew trees suck now? I suppose that's understandable we got those Blood tress, or whatever now plus Crystal trees etc. Eventually things are just going to get upgraded and older things will be worse. If I had a real dollar for every Yew log I ever cut...

8. At this stage I can't see many bots in F2P (but I haven't looked) and I definitely can't see many advertisers.

9. AFK options for levelling skills? I can't have heard that right? What does all the old school players think of that, that sounds like madness!

 

Do we still have the 'fair trade' system? Or did they remove that completely.. Can I now trade someone a billion gold without them having to give me something worthwhile in return?

 

 

edit: also monster hunting is MUCH easier than it used to be - and the death system is completely reworked. I don't remember if gravestones were out in 2008, but if you're unfamiliar with them, when you die your loot drops in a 'gravestone' for 40 minutes that no one can access but you. So no  need to fret just teleport back to where you were and you can safely loot your items. For that reason, I urge all people coming back to "take risks" at Monster hunting - if you die at Dag kings, you can get into Water Birth dungeon solo now so you can easily get back in.

 

If I'm being a bit forward, it's because I've had many long breaks from RS, and I know how overwhelming it can be to come back to years and years of changes. (I quit 2010-2013, then mid 2013-early 2014, then mid 2014 to january 2015, lol)

 

Yeah I just got an Angel of Death gravestone before I quit. I am not sure if they are still the best or whatever but I definitely loved that system of having a gravestone. Wow it's 40 minutes now? I think it was like only TEN before or something... I suppose some areas though in the game now are far harder to get to than before.

 

Thanks also for your reply mate.

[Arceus]

1. Yes I realize that, just letting you know something for the future :P.

 

2. They come from Treasure Hunter, but unless you're going to be purchasing a vast quantity of keys, just buy them off the Grand Exchange. The Spring Cleaner does have a chance of failing but the increased value of the rare resources you get instead more than compensates.

 

6. Bandos, Armadyl and Subjugation don't degrade, so that may be a good target for now. You just buy them once and you're set forever! Guthan's, which in contrast is a set of Barrows armour, is also useful in some situations if you want to stay a long time and use it for the healing effect, but it does degrade. The cost is 1M to fix the whole set at Bob or about half that if someone with 99 Smithing assists you in doing it.

 

8. They've definitely pruned it back, but the occasional one still slips through I guess.

 

9. Yep a lot of skills have become more AFK or have good AFK options. For example you can dress up as a shark from a recent Treasure Hunter promotion and auto-consume fish  :rolleyes: ...

 

There is a trade restriction, but only on new accounts, created after November 2011. They can receive wealth but not trade (more than a trivial amount of) it away, until becoming a member. So if you make a new account and give it a large amount of GP, you wouldn't be able to get it back unless you bought a membership, but you would be able to receive gifts.

 

Regarding gravestones, Angel of Death is indeed one of the best. The Royal Dwarven Gravestone is technically a little better, but I wouldn't spend the cash on it. You can carry Signs of Respite with you to extend the length of your grave in the event of death, which may prove well worth it! Due to server issues, they have extended gravestone timers by a factor of 3 or something for the indefinite future, and they're planning on changing death mechanics some point soon in any case.

[baklava]

3. 1 Mil... Geez I don't remember it being THAT expensive. Can you no longer do it with an Armor Rack in a PoH?

 

6. I forgot about Bandos Armor. I only once ever owned a full set of that, it was like 30 mil or something back in the day. I bet it's still quite expensive but it was definitely one of my favourite sets of armor. I'd love a set of that again.

 

8. I'm really glad to hear that, bots suck seriously really. They were all my friends used to complain about...

 

9. Omg... :DD what is this Treasure Hunter thing you speak of? I'd love to find a non-terrible way to get my Fishing from 90 to 99.

 

Hmm that's weird. I won't have that problem though because my account is older than my Tip.It account :p haven't seen many around who are from the 'golden days' of RS. But that's good I guess that they have this option.

 

Thanks for that. Not including PKing and other deliberate suicides there's only been 2 instances in my life where I died and wanted to slam my head through a table (you know THOSE moments when you really lost something amazing).

They were both times before the existence of Gravestones. After them, the only times I've died, was for a free teleport or out of hilarious deliberate stupidity. I'm sure the game will be more challenging now but I don't see myself dying a lot still.

 

Thanks again for all of the amazing answers.

 

Also nice skiller account mate! I've always wanted to make one of those. I'll get around to it one day.

[Arceus]

Yes you can repair all the degradable stuff with an armour stand, generally half cost with 100 Smithing. That's what I was trying to allude to above - sorry I was not clear! Bandos armour will cost only about 6.1M at market price right now, and that even includes the useless shield :P. You should definitely be able to get it, just work at it with making money and you will get there.

 

Treasure Hunter is a "minigame" through which you can win prizes, which vary from xp lamps to stars (which grant bonus xp) to cosmetics and more...it has also been the cause of some disgruntlement with players becoming increasingly annoyed with overpowered promotions. But I'll leave that story for another day.

 

Just in case you aren't aware, remember that there are no gravestone in PvP (that would kind of defeat the point!).

 

And thanks, although I'm technically level 15 from Prayer. RuneTrack never updated that formula...

[baklava]

Fair enough and no worries, thanks so much for all the helpful information :)

 

If I was going to go the totally non-combat route until I get a full set of Bandos. Would you suggest 99 wcing or 90 fishing to make the money?

If wcing, should I go for mages, or something better? If fishing, what should I go for?

 

After that question I'll get out of everyone's hair :D

[Arceus]

To be blunt, neither of those are exactly stellar alternatives. You can cut elder logs with woodcutting, or fish cavefish or rocktails with fishing. I guess you might be more interested in fishing since you're not 99 yet, but I would guess woodcutting would be a little faster.

 

Cutting elders is a little special since they "disappear" after 5 minutes of instanced chopping (so the tree is "all yours" unlike most other trees, which split their logs amongst players) so you need to run between different locations and keep finding a new tree. They come back after 10 minutes of game time, so if you cycle between 3 trees you will be good (or alch or something if you really don't want to move).