Rares-don't get rid of them Jagex!

[ortiz9471]

OK, first of all I will never own a rare, as I don't have enough money (most I ever had was like 1.2mil in items, not enough for a rare) that's just to stop people from calling me a stupid merchant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you may not agree with me but that is fine, just tell me why and don't flame me. I may have no idea what I'm talking about, sounding like a moron, but do not flame me, I like constructive criticism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh, and sorry for spelling errors if I have any :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think, that rares keep things like lobbies, yews, iron, coal, that sort of thing, from rising in price. The people with many millions of gp and merchant, need something to merchant. So they do rares, always rising so it's a constant and garuenteed profit. But, if the rares were gone they would invest in the lower priced things. So now say you had 100mil, that's enough for a phat, or enough for 400k lobbies. Take away the phat, they go for the lobbies. There is so many people buying lobbies now to merchant, that the supply isn't enough and the demand is way to high, causing them to go crazy in value. The same thing would happen to all other raw materials often merchanted. But, not only would those be affected, everything will. Say you want to pk, would you rathor buy that dharok armor for what it costs now, or 25mil. Would you rather buy those bloods 650 each or 2k each? Would you buy the sharks 1k each or 3k each. Then, with all the things rising everybody would want to sell them but everybody would still be producing them. Everybody would sell those lobs they got for 1k hoping to rise, and try to sell them highest they can. At first it goes down to 950gp, and everybody realizes it is dropping so everybody sells, demand is nothing is supply is overwhelming, the prices plumet. They drop down to 100gp and nobody wants them! The prices of everything have just crashed, just because Jagex took rares out of the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So Jagex, do not take rares out of them game even though I think the economy is destined to crash under their weight no matter what you do. Think of a master plan, and stick to it. That's all I can say.

[GulfKid]

Since when is Jagex removing rares?

[Guest AshKaYu]

Since when is Jagex removing rares?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They aren't, but why is that relevant? Thanks for that canned meat :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I whole-heartedly agree. Phat's/Eggs/Halfwines/Santas etc etc are also a reward for the players that have played the longest. And that is one group who I feel JAGeX should remain loyal too, forever, even if I'm not part of it.

[Indizle]

 

Since when is Jagex removing rares?

 

 

 

They aren't, but why is that relevant? Thanks for that canned meat :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh it is most relevant! For this entire post is based on the assumption that Jagex is planning to remove rares. Behold:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So Jagex, do not take rares out of them game even though I think the economy is destined to crash under their weight no matter what you do. Think of a master plan, and stick to it. That's all I can say.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now if this person did not believe that Jagex will be removing rares, what was the point of telling Jagex not to remove these items? Why would he name his topic "Rares--Don't Get Rid of em Jagex" lest he truly believed that Jagex is about to remove them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the actual content of his post, it has been said many times on these forums in almost any thread complaining about the high cost of rares, and thus is not new at all.

[SDK]

Nice insight, very good POV

[AMazeOfDeath]

And just who is 'that person' that made the thread?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think Jagex will ever remove the rares from their game seing it as how most of the rares are owned by the top players and if removed, I predict a lot of people sending hate mail and stop playing the game altogether.

 

 

 

Unless, of course, Jagex really does want to get rid of their top ranked players to give the new players a chance of reaching the top, which is very unlikely.

 

 

 

I think rares are the only thing that keeps some people playing the game at all. Because they fluctuate so frequently in price (compared to the other items in the game) it's almost like a mini-stock market.

 

 

 

I for one wouldn't have the same interest in RS if they were to remove rares from the game.

[rollerjam5]

I personally wouldn't mind it if they made rares non-tradable and gave announcement of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your arguement is flawed in the following facts:

 

 

 

1. You don't have to purcahse something with money, you can just let it sit there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. There is a supply of runes and such from stores, that's why the have dropped so much these past couple of months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. No one wants them? Lobbies aren't high from price manipulation, they're high from pure demand, prices won't crash, they'll just return to normal and they definitely won't go that high. A merchant should know the market knowing it wouldn't rise that high.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. It's about time prices went up, the gold being introduced into this game is unbelievable and prices have only rose a bit to keep up. Compare the percentage rises of rares vs. runes past 9 months or so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rares: +500-900%

 

 

 

Runes: ~ -300%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Doesn't this seem a bit lopsided? A 25% change in any direction or so is significant and 300% is off the charts of something there is such a large demand from.

[XiaoStrike]

 

Since when is Jagex removing rares?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They aren't, but why is that relevant? Thanks for that canned meat :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I whole-heartedly agree. Phat's/Eggs/Halfwines/Santas etc etc are also a reward for the players that have played the longest. And that is one group who I feel JAGeX should remain loyal too, forever, even if I'm not part of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, don't take them away. Make them un-tradable.

[blusttoy]

Hmm, by making them untradeable, isn't it a similar concept like removing rares?

 

 

 

Afterall, if the rares become untradeable, there's no demand for it and thus, I believe results in high fluctuation of other basic materials and items.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest, people without any rares shouldn't make a big fuss out of it and try to get it using their hard work instead of complaining about how ridiculously high the price of rares is.

[hellsurfer]

uv totally missed the mark here. the reason prices of yews iron ores so on dont go threw the roof aint cos not any ppl merch them.. they do but its the fact someone can go get more, i'd love to see the skill where u can make p hat's its the "limited" supply, thats the word limited like never going to be more.. thats y they rise in price and what not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Think, it could save your life

[blusttoy]

But you do realise that a rare cost millions. Let's say without it, a rich person could buy millions of supply at one go and that is only one individual. With about ten people buying millions at a time, it's enough to raise the price, though not by not too much but an increment nontheless

[caughtjoo]

I personally wouldn't mind it if they made rares non-tradable and gave announcement of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your arguement is flawed in the following facts:

 

 

 

1. You don't have to purcahse something with money, you can just let it sit there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. There is a supply of runes and such from stores, that's why the have dropped so much these past couple of months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. No one wants them? Lobbies aren't high from price manipulation, they're high from pure demand, prices won't crash, they'll just return to normal and they definitely won't go that high. A merchant should know the market knowing it wouldn't rise that high.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. It's about time prices went up, the gold being introduced into this game is unbelievable and prices have only rose a bit to keep up. Compare the percentage rises of rares vs. runes past 9 months or so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rares: +500-900%

 

 

 

Runes: ~ -300%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Doesn't this seem a bit lopsided? A 25% change in any direction or so is significant and 300% is off the charts of something there is such a large demand from.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With that anouncement made, wouldnt it be likely that people would swarm the rare market to hold onto a piece of history?

[Bubsa]

 

Since when is Jagex removing rares?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They aren't, but why is that relevant? Thanks for that canned meat :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, would you say discussing the issue of Bush removing the state of Florida relevant? *Touch wood*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If Jagex cared about rare inflation, they would have done something at the time of the dupe, or perhaps even earlier. Therefore, the basis of the post is futile and therefore, I would say, is irrelevant. Gulf's question, on the contrary, was relevant as it was pointing out this fact in not so many words.

[magicnite]

more BAN today mean more rare are disappearing!!!!

[Dilts36]

 

 

Since when is Jagex removing rares?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They aren't, but why is that relevant? Thanks for that canned meat :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I whole-heartedly agree. Phat's/Eggs/Halfwines/Santas etc etc are also a reward for the players that have played the longest. And that is one group who I feel JAGeX should remain loyal too, forever, even if I'm not part of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, don't take them away. Make them un-tradable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if they make rares non tradeable. this would make alot of people mad. im sure

 

 

 

i would quit rs if they made rares none trableable. and i would assume like barrows and god arrmors and stuff like that would sky rocket in price.

[theghost14]

So what is the market crashs thats GREAT jagex should make them untradeble RIGHT NOw

[fishmech]

I wouldn't mind if they killed the rares market. Does it truly affect the way the game is supposed to be played? Not at all. Why not just take out all those rares and replace them with coins representing current market value?

[Bubsa]

replace them with coins representing current market value?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And whom, pray tell, with all the price manipulators about, decides that?

[fishmech]

Jagex decides that. And without price manipulators you don't have a rares market anyway.

[Bubsa]

So the people who play the game are being judged by Jagex's mistake?

[theghost14]

Everyday rares go up around 1k beacause someone sells it for 1k more then what they bought it for...Sooner or later jagex will get rid of them there just waiting for them to get the right amount then turn em off...

[Fromfirst2Last1987]

they arent getting rid of rares, and if your worried about prices of lobs and such why dont you fish them yourself and sell for a profit if that ever happens. its not like they are hard to get and they arent limited to the ammount available in the game like rares. so even if there werent rares supplies like lobs wont rise in price, the rare drops such as dragon would rise before lobs

[AMazeOfDeath]

Everyday rares go up around 1k beacause someone sells it for 1k more then what they bought it for...Sooner or later jagex will get rid of them there just waiting for them to get the right amount then turn em off...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How about some basis for your wild theory? Why would they even touch the rares? If noting, rares encourage people to play more and earn enough money to buy one.

 

 

 

And what is "the right amount"? How would they decide what the right amount is? How would you feel if you paid 10mil gp for an iteam and the next day it was gone?