Gradia Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I'm sick and tired of using this crappy Harvey Norman computer package (Which is very bad for games), so I decided to save up some money and buy a new PC. My friend suggested this: (Australian dollars) (+ A 40gig harddrive or something) It seem's good (I'm not good with computers) and in my price range (< 2000). I need a computer that'd be able to run online games (WoW, Guild wars and such) without major lag. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 You'll want to get a better graphics card. For a start, the one you have on there won't go in the motherboard you have selected - get something like a 7800GT. The CPU you have selected isn't particularly good value for money, and is somewhat out of line with the rest of the system. Get bigger than a 40GB hard drive, go more along the lines of 250GB (best value for money at this time). Also you will need to get a power supply, ones that come free with cases are no good. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nengal Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 If you're mainly playing MMORPG's and stuff, make sure to get Cable, if you don't have it already, a G router and some CAT5e cables or a wireless G NIC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gratz Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 you are gettin ripped bad -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Now youve got to remember this is the australian currency that we are working with, hence the higher prices. A 7800GT can cost anywhere from $600AUD or more, which is nearly half of his highest budget (< $2000) so it might not nessecarily be a good choice money wise. Also, which state do you live in and would you be prepared to build your own computer from scratch or do you have a freind or family member that could assemble it for you? Are you able to re-use your current monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers or do you want all those to be new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_k0m0d0_ Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Get Atlhon Processor, the normal one is awsome for gaming! ~komodo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradia Posted March 6, 2006 Author Share Posted March 6, 2006 Now youve got to remember this is the australian currency that we are working with, hence the higher prices. Yep, $2000 AUS is around $1400-1500 American dollars. Also, which state do you live in and would you be prepared to build your own computer from scratch or do you have a freind or family member that could assemble it for you? Are you able to re-use your current monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers or do you want all those to be new? I live in NSW, and either I or my friend would assemble it. I've already got monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers that are all fine. (Though a new monitor would be nice :D) Get bigger than a 40GB hard drive, go more along the lines of 250GB (best value for money at this time). I see what you mean about best value for money, since a 40GB HD is $70, and 250GB is $150. (Thought I'd never need a HD that big :lol:) Thanks all, I'll keep on looking I guess. What about this? Graphics Card: XpertVision GeForce 7800GT 256Mb PCI Express - $504.70 Processor: AMD Athlon64 4200 Dual Core Socket 939 CPU - $556.40 RAM: 2 Corsair Value Select 1Gb PC3200 DDR400 C3 RAM - $256.80 HD: Samsung SpinPoint 120Gb 7200 rpm IDE HDD - $106.40 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic - $264.10 Case: Thermaltake Soprano 430W Black Midi Tower - $148.50 (Around $1800) I just need a motherboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Here is a rough plan of a system which can be built for under your budget. All parts selected from 'MSY Technology '. AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 3800+ 2.0GHz Socket 939 $435.00 OCZ PC3200 A grade Memory 2x 512MB $127.00 Forsa Nvidia GeForce GF 7800GT PCI-Express Graphics Card $425 Asustek A8N-E nForce4-Ultra Socket 939 ATX $142 Western Digital 160GB 7200rpm Serial ATA $115 Thermaltake Mambo Black Tower case w Thermaltake Silent 430Watt PSU $95.00 Total: $1339 * The purchase of a good brand PSU might be wise. ** A different video card could be worthwhile. (I might research more into this if I get the time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 AMD Athlon 64 4000+ - $508.20 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_27_29&products_id=11476 Asus A8N-E motherboard - $157.30 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_36_63&products_id=16007 Western Digital 250Gb SATA Hard Disk - $163.90 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_107_22&products_id=5884 Kingston 1Gb PC3200 DDR Ram - $136.40 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_23&products_id=16856 XFX GeForce 7800GT 256Mb (PCIE) - $520.00 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_26&products_id=17797 Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS - $165.00 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_42&products_id=4038 Total - $1650.80 So youve got about $350 left over to get a case, power supply and other things you might want. Also, im pretty sure that they ship to any where in Australia so that buisiness should be able to get it to you. One thing i need to ask, will you need a copy of XP or do you already have one you can use. Because if you dont, you might need to reconsider some choices to fit XP into your budget. Getting a slightly slower CPU and video card is something to consider if you need to get a copy of XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradia Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 Stuart, sorry, but that site seem's like a rip off. The GFX card is more expensive, and the processor isn't as good. I think I've decided to go with this: http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7817/comp7ry.png (+ Another 1gig RAM, which = $1800) The motherboard has a intergrated soundcard, and is compatibly with the CPU, and GFX card (At least I hope so :?). (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/products_ ... SK8AA-8KRS) The 250GB harddrive, I have no use for it what so ever. 2gigs of RAM for games in the future (Better of buying now when I have the money) I don't have a "legal" copy of windows, and I really don't want to spend another $100-200 on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Ehhh... Galaxy don't sound like a very reputable brand to me, never even heard of them to be honest. Ive heard of Foxconn though and they seem to make OK products, but they just seem a little off to me. About the some of the parts i picked, they might be a bit more expensive than some of the ones you listed but they are brands people have probably heard of. They are known brands which is why the price is a bit higher. Usually the rule is you get what you pay for, and if you pay that little bit extra, you'll get a better product. Also, the processor i listed might not be as good at first glance, but in many of the video game bench marks which were done by Tom's Hardware Guide, they showed that the 4000+ did better than the 4200+ X2, thus why i listed it. The 4000+ did better in video game benchmarks than the X2 4200+ and you said at the start of the thread you wanted to play games with out lag, so it seemed logical to me to choose a processor that didn't lag in games. Whatever though, its all up to you in the end, I'm just giving you some tips. I would really look into that Foxconn mobo and that Galaxy card, as they don't sound like very reputable brands to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradia Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 I'll change the GFX card to the XpertVision 7800GT, and look into the mobo a lil more. Also, I appreciate your help. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilheart14 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 if u can spend just ova 2000 like 2300 tell me or i can give u specs i had a kick [wagon] computer built for me for this price at a shop and u could even do it cheaper if u made it ureself let me know i live in NSW aswell. ;) oww and ull want a bigger harddrive then 40gig im using 2x 150gig harddrives Aussie Aussie Aussie, :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradia Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 if u can spend just ova 2000 like 2300 tell me or i can give u specs i had a kick wagon computer built for me for this price at a shop and u could even do it cheaper if u made it ureself let me know i live in NSW aswell. ;) oww and ull want a bigger harddrive then 40gig im using 2x 150gig harddrives I'm getting a 120GB harddrive, anything else would just be a waste of money. I think I've chosen my parts now, but thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I highly suggest you get either Western Digital or Seagate brands for the hard drive. Specs seem fine, it's just you want to get known good brands for your hardware. Post the final list so we can have a final look over it ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradia Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 Motherboard: Foxconn NF4SK8AA-8KRS Socket 939 Processor: AMD Athlon64 4200+ Dual core Socket 939 RAM: Corsair 1GB PC3200 DDR400 C3 x 2 HD: Seagate 200GB 7200 rpm SATA GFX Card: XpertVision GeForce 7800GT 256Mb PCI Express DVD-RW: Samsung black 16x DVD+/RW dual layer burner OEM Cases: Thermaltake Soprano 430W Black midi tower I'll add in the prices later, going to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Nicely done. Just a tad over 2,000 with my guestimating skills (which suck :P). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 With regards to Galaxy branded video cards, they are generally excellent quality products. Although, they do not seem to over clock their products unlike XFX (also high quality). So high quality but standard performance sums up galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Well there you go, i learnt something. It was an unknown brand to me, so i wasnt so sure, but Militaris usually knows what he is talking about so you might as well go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Double post. I apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradia Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 Okay well, went to a few different forums and finally got this: Motherboard: Gigabyte K8NF-9 CPU: AMD Athlon64 3800+ X2 GFX: XpertVision GeForce 7800GT 256Mb RAM: Corsair 1GB PC3200 DDR400 (Two of them) HD: Seagate 120GB DVD RW: Pioneer DVR-110D Case: Antec Sonata II Anywhere between $1800-1900. Also, where should I buy the parts from? I find http://www.vtechindustries.com.au to have low prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilheart14 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 since u know the parts of u will know use http://www.staticice.com.au to find the cheapest price in australia Aussie Aussie Aussie, :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 If I was you I would spend a few dollars more and purchase a XFX GeForce 7800GT 256Mb instead of the one from XpertVision. The XFX one is factory overclocked (so it is under warranty) and XFX generally has one of the better software bundles. In my opinion differently worth the extra $25 or so. I would pick http://www.vtechindustries.com.au , because arc does not appear to stock the XpertVision 7800GT (or the XFX one). Although, it can be worthwhile to purchase video cards from a seperate shop. Because I have nothing better to do, I decided to summarise the noteworthy different 7800GT options which I found using Aussie pricespy. The cheapest 7800GT in aus seems to be s Forsa ($425.00), I know little of that brand. I would suggest buying the 2nd cheapest cards which are from Microstar or Leadtek ($445). Both of these are good highly respected brands, and should include good bundles and warranty. All three cards are priced that at MSY Technology (dunno how trustworthy that store is). The lowest priced XpertVision 7800GT ($486) is from H B Outlet. It costs $504.70 from vtechindustries. The cheapest XFX 7800GT is priced at $495.00 and is available from two stores at that price. It sells for $529.00 at vtechindustries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedragon Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 gtx is better then GT, gt are [cabbage] waste of money, use onboard or something and wait for the gtx to come down.. gt is seriously [cabbage]. iv got one its not all its hotted up to be and i wish i didnt waste my money.. extra $500 after buying my 6600GT 256 card that was great and worth the money. galaxy are new to australia, they make good cards verry high quality compaired to most the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy316 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Okay well, went to a few different forums and finally got this: Motherboard: Gigabyte K8NF-9 CPU: AMD Athlon64 3800+ X2 GFX: XpertVision GeForce 7800GT 256Mb RAM: Corsair 1GB PC3200 DDR400 (Two of them) HD: Seagate 120GB DVD RW: Pioneer DVR-110D Case: Antec Sonata II Anywhere between $1800-1900. Also, where should I buy the parts from? I find http://www.vtechindustries.com.au to have low prices. No offence but if your getting a system capable of gaming get a bigger HD or a seconday HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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