Report warning

[swampjedi]

30 seconds? I'd be banned within a week.

[swampjedi]

In the end, I feel like the potential for abuse outweighs whatever gains might be had. Also, I feel like this is a stop-gap, as I said above. It won't really make the problem any better.

 

 

 

Furthermore, if what Jagex says is true, then they already have a system that monitors us in place.

 

 

 

Just keep reporting them as you have. Things are much better here in P2P now, and reports will make them get better and better.

[shade_bandyt]

In the end, I feel like the potential for abuse outweighs whatever gains might be had. Also, I feel like this is a stop-gap, as I said above. It won't really make the problem any better.

 

 

 

Furthermore, if what Jagex says is true, then they already have a system that monitors us in place.

 

 

 

Just keep reporting them as you have. Things are much better here in P2P now, and reports will make them get better and better.

 

well, you feel that way, but based on what? based on the way i described it, how could it be abused? dont you realise that the system is being abused right now? you yourself admitted to reporting someone and getting them banned for something that wasnt wrong as far as jagex was concerned. you reported justin with the michael jackson incident. thats abusing the system. too many innocent people are being banned for nothing because they have no say. if somebody is going to report you, you can do nothing to stop it. at least with this system you can prevent people from unjustly reporting you to a certain extent. how can that not be a good thing?

 

 

 

as for 30 seconds, have you ever timed how long a strange plant takes to grow before it attacks? 30 seconds is about the average time a random event gives you before they zap you. check it out yourself

[Lim_Dul]

As easy as it sounds to add this, it would be just as easy for an auto software developer to just add some code in to press the button when it detects a request.

 

 

 

This is why I think it would be important that it not be simply a one click response. Like I said, it could be one of those boxes filled with random letters and number of various fonts.

 

 

 

Shade bandyt brings up another advantage. If you are reported accidentally via this report warning, you'll be able to demonstrate why you were reported. For instance you'll know the time it happened, and maybe you posted to the forums at that time. You'll be able to supply the post you made as evidence in your defense. You'll be able to proactively defend yourself from mistaken reports.

 

 

 

This is far and away better to trying to log in, only to discover you were wrongfully banned for a report sent last week. If this happens, you have no clue what you were doing when the report was sent, and you don't know why you may have appeared to be cheating. At this point you're only recourse is to throw yourself to the mercy of Jagex and get a black mark.

[leet_man69]

It's just too easy to abuse this. It will cause the guy suspected of macroing an annoyance. If the guy is macroing, he will not get annoyed because he will be not there. There is nothing wrong with the system now, i don't know of anyone who was unrightfully banned for macroing. If they claim this, they lie.

[highlanders]

I completly disagree.

 

Stupid annoying noobs will start annoying everyone and when someone they are annoying ignores them, they would do that sort of warning. I mean, we don't need to be annoyed any further. Players shouldn't have such rights over other players. Most people aren't capable of making the difference between an autoer and a normal player.

 

For example, in-game, when something asks a stupid question, I don't have the obligation to respond to his idiocy. With such system, the pissed off idiot would send me a stupid warning which I would need to respond at, making me lose my time.

 

Let's say I'm afk for 60 secs, and can't respond, I get reported. Now, how stupid that is? Jagex gets a ton of fake reports. And with Jagex's banning methods lately, they probably wouldn't make the difference between me an autoer. Result, an innocent player, me, gets banned, and I have to go through all the process of banning appeal. Making me lose my time, again and again! All for an idiot which I ignored.

 

You have good intentions in your idea, but it would cause much more harm than good.

[swampjedi]

well, you feel that way, but based on what? based on the way i described it, how could it be abused? dont you realise that the system is being abused right now?

 

 

 

It's a hypothetical, no one has any kind of "proof" of how it might work - nor do I need to provide any. Misdirection.

 

 

 

 

you yourself admitted to reporting someone and getting them banned for something that wasnt wrong as far as jagex was concerned. you reported justin with the michael jackson incident. thats abusing the system.

 

 

 

Your opinion. Misguided, shortsighted, and ignorant, but still your opinion. The fact that Jagex revoked the ban doesn't mean he didn't break the rules. Post hoc propter hoc.

 

 

 

as for 30 seconds, have you ever timed how long a strange plant takes to grow before it attacks? 30 seconds is about the average time a random event gives you before they zap you. check it out yourself

 

 

 

Getting reported is much worse than dying to a random. False Analogy.

 

 

 

So let's see, three falacies. Stick to the minor leagues, kid.

 

 

 

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I agree with the previous poster. I don't want to get harassed for ignoring people. I don't want the people I'm ignoring to be able to punish me (by flooding me with randoms). That kinda defeats the purpose.

[Lim_Dul]

. There is nothing wrong with the system now, i don't know of anyone who was unrightfully banned for macroing. If they claim this, they lie.

 

 

 

My friend got banned for macroing, because he buried big bones the entire time he was playing for 7 days or so. He successfully ban appealed, but lost his account for several days due to this mistake.

 

 

 

Most people aren't capable of making the difference between an autoer and a normal player.

 

For example, in-game, when something asks a stupid question, I don't have the obligation to respond to his idiocy. With such system, the pissed off idiot would send me a stupid warning which I would need to respond at, making me lose my time.

 

Let's say I'm afk for 60 secs, and can't respond, I get reported. Now, how stupid that is? Jagex gets a ton of fake reports.

 

 

 

You've made my point in your argument. If you can't tell the difference between an autoer and real player, then you send a report, how is that less bad? This idea would cut down on reports flooding Jagex, by reducing the reports sent on people who were just afk briefly. On top of that, people who were afk too long and missed the warning, can immediately take steps to inform Jagex that they were merely afk, instead of waiting to be banned a week later.

 

 

 

This report warning would be no more inconveniencing than random events, but we all get by with random events as they are. Nobody is saying we should make it to where players can spam you nonstop with random events, yet that seems to be the conclusion you all have jumped to immediately. There would obviously be a limit to how many you can receive in a given timeframe.

[swampjedi]

I think that most of the details can be worked out. There's one that can't, and it's the one that kills it for me.

 

 

 

This suggestion creates consequences for ignoring other players. That's just not acceptable. I refuse to be held hostage by people who demand that I converse with them.

[Lim_Dul]

This suggestion creates consequences for ignoring other players. That's just not acceptable. I refuse to be held hostage by people who demand that I converse with them.

 

 

 

But if you ignore them now and they think you're autoing, you just get reported. Is that the way you'd prefer things worked?

 

 

 

You could still ignore other players if you so choose, but when the report warning comes up, you address it, and you're done. Nothing says you have to go into detailed conversation with anybody. You get a chance to prevent yourself being reported, and you don't have to say a single word to anybody. You can be just as antisocial as you please, but you might get what amounts to one more random event every few hours. I really can't see why this is such a terrifying prospect.

[swampjedi]

That's a very good point, but it's the philosophy I'm against. I don't like for players to be able to interrupt my gameplay unavoidably. If you made this exact same thing totally random (that is, not player initiated), I'd be all for it. Say you get this random after training the same skill for 30 minutes plus. Having chat off or hide increases the chances of it. If you are actively chatting, you won't get the random.

 

 

 

I do see your point, Lim. It's a very good one. Not reported >> reported, any day. I just think you're going about it the wrong way.

 

 

 

Anyways, a nitpick. I'm not being antisocial, I'm just not being social in the game. I play with a very few people. If I'm not with them, I'm being social in IM or a forum or some other digital place.