Why is?

[zaquierming]

I'm going to try to explain this without being redundant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lately I've been thinking a lot about the universe and such, now that we're doing Astronomy in Science. It got me thinking what was beyond the "end" of the universe, or if there even was an end. Say in this case, what would be beyond the end of the universe? Just plain nothingness? I don't understand that, nothingness is still something. There has to be an end to the nothingness, doesn't there? I'm just confused at the thought of there being nothing, because we're the ones who claim something as nothing. If there was no universe, or whatever and there was "nothing" who's to say it was nothing? And how did it get there? I mean, we wouldn't be there to say that nothing is there, so is nothing really there? Or is it completely non-existent? I think it's just the human mind-set. I keep wanting to compare nothing to the nothing we know on Earth. Which is I think what's confusing me. Anyways, I tried my best to explain my thoughts. My apologies if that was complete gibberish.

[warri0r45]

Kinslayer777 wrote:

 

 

 

warri0r45 wrote:

 

 

 

if you believe the science...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but it's simply impossible to refute that the atoms of our body aren't the same as the atoms of many other things. There's no religious battle there. I don't mean to turn this into a science fact/bible quote war though. Carbon, Hydrogen (

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Depending how much chemistry you took, you should know not all atoms are the same. Of course all atoms have a nucleus which contain neutrons and protons, and then (a) valance shell(s) which contains electrons. The things that make each atom/element different are the number of protons and neutrons and electrons in an atom. For example, carbon has an atomic number of 6. This means there are 6 protons and 6 neutrons. Now if we take another element such as Lithium, it has an atomic number of 3, meaning 3 electron and protons. Now, when we attempt to put together a metal and a non-metal, atoms must move from one element to another so that we make an octet (or full valance in each shell). Lets put Lithium and Carbon together. Carbon needs 4 electrons to become an octet. Since Lithium has 1 electron in its valance shell, there needs to be 4 lithium to make that Carbon have an octet. This makes Li4C (Lithium Carbide).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now to go further, Each element has a different portion to a certain property called electronegativity. Now i don't know the exact electronegativity for lithium and carbon, but, the energy needed to put together Lithium and carbon would be different then say, magnesium and Carbon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is your chemistry lesson forthe day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if this is adressed to me - im aware of all of these things. i got very-high achievement for senior chemistry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if not - I dont quite understand whatis being arguing here.. sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

someone fill me in?

[Kinslayer777]

I don't believe we're argueing if it's alright to leave it at that. I might be wrong thoough. I dont want to go too far off topic.

[warri0r45]

so you were agreeing with me? im sorry, it just seemed as if you were refuting what i was saying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No fusion or fission in our bodies (??) I suppose however there could be some particles radiating...or is everything in us too stable for that? What about Carbon14 I was under the impression it slowly degenerates but perhaps that only once living things die...?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

in reference to this, no there is no nuclear fission/fusion or radiation (radioactive decay, living things can still emit forms of radiation) in living things. Yes, our bodies are too stable for it and any radioactive substance is harmful in large doses (some can be helpful in small doses, i.e. radio-therapy). And yes, i believe that carbon-14 in living things degenerates into another isotope (C-12) with a half life of around 5900 years? cant remember exactly. This radiation and the measure of the ratio of C-12 to C-14 in organic matter is the basis of carbon-dating.

[kelem_ryu]

Thanks for your contribuitons warri0r45, Kinslayer777and zaquierming. I don't believe in argumentation, so all i want to read are some other thoughts i can "meditate" upon. There were some lines that made some sense to me.

[crimsonking]

You will never find an answer to your question on this plane of reality, even logic, science, and reasoning can't help you, it goes beyond our understanding of the 3 and forever will.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To me, existence is an impossibility, yet we still exist for some illogical reason, just remember, anything is possible.

[assassin_696]

Good question, but it's one which I honestly think our minds cannot comprehend. It's so fundamental to everything we hold dear it verges on depressing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But i'd rather exist than not exist, and I really do exist, and for now that's good enough for me. :)

[runemetsa]

Good question, but it's one which I honestly think our minds cannot comprehend.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is like watching yourself from the mirror and think that the person you see is actually you. Or like, if someone who lived his whole life as a blind would try to imagine such a things like colour or the shape. What a shock it would be if he would suddenly get his sight back.

[warri0r45]

Or like, if someone who lived his whole life as a blind would try to imagine such a things like colour or the shape. What a shock it would be if he would suddenly get his sight back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that would be good as a metaphor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Say there is such thing as heaven/god (i dont believe in these things) when we die, our eyes are opened after a life of blindness, and the truth revealed.