December 18, 200619 yr how's about trust no one in a position of power. Better yet, trust no one at all. Then you will grow up one lonely man... :uhh: :ohnoes: :cry: YOU! ATTEND TET EVENTS! CLICK HERE!
December 18, 200619 yr I might have misinterpreted my self, what i was referring to. Back in europe ww2, did not end till 1990-1991. Well it was no longer ww2, but The Russians were still trying to take over Baltic countries. And the war continued out there, around the exact center of the europe.(Lithuania,Latvia,Estonia, Prussia...) KGB-Had scientists,engineers. If you dint know, KGB is like National security in Russia, they also have spies and etc. Also KGB, has been there since 1920s i believe, just under diffrent name and diffrent rules\system. Since 1950s they got involved with aliens,thats why it was called to national security(KGB), thats where things started going. So don't you tell me I don't know what im talking about, yet again, its from what perspective you look at it, and i was looking from European perspective , and thats because I was born in europe and did live there. his response to you... This kid is seriously jacked up. Back in europe ww2, did not end till 1990-1991. Well it was no longer ww2, but The Russians were still trying to take over Baltic countries. And the war continued out there, around the exact center of the europe.(Lithuania,Latvia,Estonia, Prussia...) I don't know what fantasy world he lives in, or what he's smoking, but to think that the dissolution of the Soviet Union was an extension of WWII is ridiculous. Here's how it goes: Attempted coup against Gorbachev, it fails, all 15 Soviet republics unanimously declare independence, the Soviet Union is gone forever. There was no war in the Baltic states. Russia didn't try to take over anybody. And Prussia has not existed for 89 years. KGB-Had scientists,engineers. If you dint know, KGB is like National security in Russia, they also have spies and etc. Once again, they did not. The KGB had what is called "Line X" which was responsible for the security of scientific secrets of the Soviet Union. They had no scientists. They spied on the scientists so they wouldn't give away secrets. Duh. Also KGB, has been there since 1920s i believe, just under diffrent name and diffrent rules\system. Ask him if he knows what organization the KGB started as, and have him trace its development from its conception without looking it up. I bet you he can't. And the KGB and all of its predecessor organizations maintained the same code and system, even today in the Russian Federation's new intelligence branch. Since 1950s they got involved with aliens,thats why it was called to national security(KGB), thats where things started going. So don't you tell me I don't know what im talking about, yet again, its from what perspective you look at it, and i was looking from European perspective , and thats because I was born in europe and did live there. Whoa! Major backpedalling! He FIRST said that the involvement with "aliens" began DURING WWII, BEFORE the 50s. So either he was lying then or he's lying now. And he's definitely the first "European" I've heard of to have this "perspective." And I forgot to mention that families weren't allowed to enter the KGB together. So his claim of "much of his family" being in the KGB is totally false. Ask him where he lived. Exactly where he lived when he was in "Europe." And ask him if he knows what the acronym KGB even means, without looking it up. I'll bet he doesn't know. the russians are the best! Hands down!
December 18, 200619 yr hi all, i havn't been here in a while...mostly spending my time on clan forum sites, and my home: Mayhem Makers anyhoo...i have been arguing with this 16 year old kid for 2 months straight come December 20th, and...wow. I have never seen such ignorance in my entire life. I don't know how else to respond to him. I don't know if he: a. is stupid (and brainwashed) b. blatant liar c. mental patient I have come up with every argument i can possibly think of...but i just don't know how to respond anymore and have run out of willpower. anyway...here is what his post consisted of (please read all of it, i feel i can get more intelligent arguments here than i did on MM...as it's me, and two others versus this kid while every1 else spams lol): Most of you are not going to bother to read all this: Please dont spam if your not intresnted in my way of thinking. Well I felt like covering And revealing some things than have been lied for you for centruries: Well Do you think when you die, you just rot in the ground? OR dou you think if u was good u go to god, and if u was bad u go to devil, or u reborn? -------------------------------- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4&q=aliens http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... iens&hl=en http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... iens&hl=en This does not dissaprove or Approve Jesus Crist and his father GOD, It simply gives additional information on religion, and possibilies for you as a being, also gives more full description\perspective on GOD. Story Well first of all, Before i begin the story, How do I know this stuff? My Part of Family Use to work for KGB, which is secret goverment in russia protecting you from things you dont want to know that are happening, if you did world would fall into big panic. So he use to work there and he ended up retiring with out getting shot in the head, others were not so lucky. So my GrandDad Had few files, fotos, even vids, and stories, of what was happening in world war 2. Behind all humanitys back... My grandads involvement in the KGB My grandad told me how it all began, at first at ww2, the first encounter with a "ufo" was : There was a ship with military suplies, going to some location and there were 2 war airplanes flying and keeping guard in the air along the ship. And all the sudden out of nowhere, in a blink of an eye This disk flyies and just captures the plane inside of it. And goes into the clouds, other air plane tried chasing the disk but it got out of sigh in matter of couple of seconds. Ok now my gran dad involvment in KGB. He was an engineer and he use to work with new techonlogy and design new weapons and new air crafts. So he use to get pieces of stuff he never seen before, out of unknown metals, and he was told to duplicate this and make it into a plane. Also the pilots and generals use to talk between them selfs. Did you see the "creatures"? And the answer was, they are comming tonight to "port". Then later on my grandad got promoted, and he use to file all memos\photos\videos of space crafts and the aliens. And my grandad was really facinated with the intergalatical guests, he use to read trough memos and learn about them as much as possible. Story Continued Humans did encounter "Aliens" Being from another planet. We made a friendly contact with them. Goverment leaders agreed with aliens to give some humans for echange for some technology, But aliens are so far advanced that even the wildest fantasy movie could not capture it. So Aliens said: We will give u some technology over time, when you can be capabable on undersntanding it. Also goverment said: You cannot bee seen, the amount of ppl that have been taken by you cannot be biggerthan certain number(the number i dont know), and they must be returned to the place they were taken from, with out any recalling of what happened. Alien existence must be kept in secret. Well anyways, so aliens had to report from time to time, hows everything going, are they staying on there pact and stuff. Blah Blah Blah(so much to tell not going even bother typing it) So when talk came to regilion, thats what they said: We are not afraid of death, this is only a "ship"(meaning the body) for our "galactical bodies"(meaning the spirit). There is a place in space where all "spirits" travel, that place you call god, but lets define God, god is the most powerfull\inteligent ENERGY in the universe. When you "die" you leave ur body, either you are confused and lost and u do not know what happened, and stay and relive ur memories. Or you go REBORN. Which is called reincarnation. OR you go seek the knowledge, from the god. So basicaly what im saying, Over time, you can become the god in your "energy form" or in another words in your ghost form. All you need is time, and knowledge, when you know as much as god does, you=god Becouse god=most powerfull\inteligent energy in the universe. I think aliens are traveling form galaxy to galaxy to seek that knowledge, to learn it and to continue exploring the unvirese, when they cover the unviverse, they will learn everything there is to learn, thus will make them into "GODS". PLus you might say, universe is very big place, and it cannot be covered, Humans could have been exploring the unviverse in 1960s, if one guy dint get shot in the head.(very unusuall story, some1 dint want him reveal that information...) He had a "forula\map\scheme\idea\invention done, to make point A------------------------------------------------B Become A-B His plan had to do with "StarGate" "WormHoles". Only rumors were left of his plan, and the idea died. But why did it die? Some1 does not want us exploring the universe yet. So some1 does not want us to gain that power.... Goverment is hiding alien existence for many reasons. The biggest one is massive panic that would go world wide. Lesson My Main lesson is: There is GOD, the most powerfull inteligent being in the universe, but what if u become powerfull and inteligent as GOD, by exploring unvirses and its secrets. That would make u equal to god, which would kind of prove that GOD "is just way way way far advanced alien spirit" That has uncovered every single secret in the unviverse. Aliens are trying to travel to all parts of universe and learn all that they can learn about everything in order to become complete in another words become "GODS?" Maybe God was here before the unvirse was, maybe god has not been from the begining of the unvirse, maybe hes just really old alien spirit=energy. Which has uncovered EVERY SINGLE SECRET IN THE UNVIVERSE. I can tell you one thing, aliens that are visiting earth, are in search of knowledge and lots of it, and the reason is KNOWLEDGE=POWER. Maybe once u become complete u do become part of the original god, making god even more complete and making him the only god and the most complete god. So A Summary as short it could be is above you... ^ But now a summary of a summary...: God=Most powerfull energy in the unviverse Spirit=energy power=knowledge So When we die, we become energy. There are many roads we can take from here, we can reborn, wonder, travel to the god and ask for wisdom. Or become part of god? Or you can reborn in a diffrent planet, and continue ur journey in search of universe secrets, and once u learn all of unvireses secrets You = God Answers To: Questions\Statments first of all Hey sw0rd and everyone else, long time no see, and finally i read all of that im not saying i dont believe you but im not saying i do either but than again im someone that doesnt have a religion cause i don't believe things until i see it, yes i know im hard headed but eh if this is what you think it sounds more likely than any of the religions i've tried so yeah this is the most realistic thing ive ever heard of... Well there is big part of all religions in there, they got something in common. The fact, that after we die, there is something left, something u cannot see or touch, but its there. The spirit which = energy. Christians go to= u go to god or hell Hindu or something like that=believes ur spirit reencarnates.(reborn) Both of these are true, but not true to the end... ----------------------- So, Well a question I would loved to know an answer to is? How did we know about spirits? Was there really a Son OF the GOD? That has taken a humanly shape in order to leave a message to earth? Becouse Bible sure Says: God is not flesh and blood, it is something u cannot see or touch, but its somewhere out there. It is "spirit"=energy. ~!~!~!~! Keep in mind, this is just a breif summary, i could give u 50 pages easy on this, this is kept Very SHORT SHORT, and in most basic terms so every1 could understand~!~!~!~!~! i have many arguments against him...and he has a lot of animosity b/c i destroy his theories...but i need some help...so please tip.it save me Yes there is a true Son of God (not a god but The God) his name is Jesus Christ. This is all covered in the doctrine of Trinity..just google that..and I think this was covered in the Council Of Nicea in 313..or 325 ad BTw True Christians do not go to Hell they Go to Heaven. http://siggy.draynor.net/goal/fletching ... cow101.gif[/img][/url] Nova Ordo Secularum
December 19, 200619 yr Author I might have misinterpreted my self, what i was referring to. Back in europe ww2, did not end till 1990-1991. Well it was no longer ww2, but The Russians were still trying to take over Baltic countries. And the war continued out there, around the exact center of the europe.(Lithuania,Latvia,Estonia, Prussia...) KGB-Had scientists,engineers. If you dint know, KGB is like National security in Russia, they also have spies and etc. Also KGB, has been there since 1920s i believe, just under diffrent name and diffrent rules\system. Since 1950s they got involved with aliens,thats why it was called to national security(KGB), thats where things started going. So don't you tell me I don't know what im talking about, yet again, its from what perspective you look at it, and i was looking from European perspective , and thats because I was born in europe and did live there. his response to you... This kid is seriously jacked up. Back in europe ww2, did not end till 1990-1991. Well it was no longer ww2, but The Russians were still trying to take over Baltic countries. And the war continued out there, around the exact center of the europe.(Lithuania,Latvia,Estonia, Prussia...) I don't know what fantasy world he lives in, or what he's smoking, but to think that the dissolution of the Soviet Union was an extension of WWII is ridiculous. Here's how it goes: Attempted coup against Gorbachev, it fails, all 15 Soviet republics unanimously declare independence, the Soviet Union is gone forever. There was no war in the Baltic states. Russia didn't try to take over anybody. And Prussia has not existed for 89 years. KGB-Had scientists,engineers. If you dint know, KGB is like National security in Russia, they also have spies and etc. Once again, they did not. The KGB had what is called "Line X" which was responsible for the security of scientific secrets of the Soviet Union. They had no scientists. They spied on the scientists so they wouldn't give away secrets. Duh. Also KGB, has been there since 1920s i believe, just under diffrent name and diffrent rules\system. Ask him if he knows what organization the KGB started as, and have him trace its development from its conception without looking it up. I bet you he can't. And the KGB and all of its predecessor organizations maintained the same code and system, even today in the Russian Federation's new intelligence branch. Since 1950s they got involved with aliens,thats why it was called to national security(KGB), thats where things started going. So don't you tell me I don't know what im talking about, yet again, its from what perspective you look at it, and i was looking from European perspective , and thats because I was born in europe and did live there. Whoa! Major backpedalling! He FIRST said that the involvement with "aliens" began DURING WWII, BEFORE the 50s. So either he was lying then or he's lying now. And he's definitely the first "European" I've heard of to have this "perspective." And I forgot to mention that families weren't allowed to enter the KGB together. So his claim of "much of his family" being in the KGB is totally false. Ask him where he lived. Exactly where he lived when he was in "Europe." And ask him if he knows what the acronym KGB even means, without looking it up. I'll bet he doesn't know. ready for this? Do you THINK? Let me ask you do you think logically THINK for your self? You are trying to find what KGB does? laugh.gif 24.gif when everything they do is a complete secret, and that secret will be protected by any cause. Do you understand that? I mean, theres so much about kgb, I dont know and my grandfather doesnt know... You do what you are told, you do it with out any questions. End of story. You ask to many questions, you find your self dead the next day. ------------------ Ovu please tell me what did you find out KGB ON THE INTERNET? laugh.gif LOl, even if you were to get to work there, you would not find out [cabbage]. You dont know how hard it is to get trust there. (i'm Ovu)
December 19, 200619 yr Blah Blah Blah(so much to tell He actually said Blah Blah Blah :D Have you invited him to register here yet?
December 19, 200619 yr Author Blah Blah Blah(so much to tell He actually said Blah Blah Blah :D Have you invited him to register here yet? no...do you want me to? he wants a television show to "reveal all the secrets" i hope he does get one...just so i can go on national tv and make him cry... sorry..i never feel like this about anyone..ever. but this kid has driven me nuts, and my pride will not let me leave the argument
December 19, 200619 yr That guy sounds cool. I use to enjoy tricking people into phony arguments. If he is anything like me, he would be loving the fact how passionately magekillr is trying to prove him wrong. He really does have a point in regards to the cold war being a continuation to WWII. Just because people have given a name to a part of a conflict does not mean that the conflict ended. I say that it is quite easily arguable that the cold war is indeed a extension to WWII, if you can not see the justification I suggest reading up on history.
December 19, 200619 yr Author That guy sounds cool. I use to enjoy tricking people into phony arguments. If he is anything like me, he would be loving the fact how passionately magekillr is trying to prove him wrong. He really does have a point in regards to the cold war being a continuation to WWII. Just because people have given a name to a part of a conflict does not mean that the conflict ended. I say that it is quite easily arguable that the cold war is indeed a extension to WWII, if you can not see the justification I suggest reading up on history. what ever you call it...the conflict was over in 1988...not 1992
December 19, 200619 yr That guy sounds cool. I use to enjoy tricking people into phony arguments. If he is anything like me, he would be loving the fact how passionately magekillr is trying to prove him wrong. He really does have a point in regards to the cold war being a continuation to WWII. Just because people have given a name to a part of a conflict does not mean that the conflict ended. I say that it is quite easily arguable that the cold war is indeed a extension to WWII, if you can not see the justification I suggest reading up on history. what ever you call it...the conflict was over in 1988...not 1992 The soviet union did not officially dissolve until December 31 1991, which marked the end of the cold war. His date was accurate with regards to the end of the cold war.
December 19, 200619 yr ready for this? Do you THINK? Let me ask you do you think logically THINK for your self? You are trying to find what KGB does? laugh.gif 24.gif when everything they do is a complete secret, and that secret will be protected by any cause. Do you understand that? I mean, theres so much about kgb, I dont know and my grandfather doesnt know... You do what you are told, you do it with out any questions. End of story. You ask to many questions, you find your self dead the next day. ------------------ Ovu please tell me what did you find out KGB ON THE INTERNET? laugh.gif LOl, even if you were to get to work there, you would not find out [cabbage]. You dont know how hard it is to get trust there. (i'm Ovu) He must be a good dancer, because he just danced around all of my questions. Sigh... You are trying to find what KGB does? laugh.gif 24.gif when everything they do is a complete secret, and that secret will be protected by any cause. Do you understand that? News flash: The Cold War is over. The KGB doesn't exist anymore. Everything about the KGB from the Soviet Union is now out in the open for everyone to see. We know all about things that were secrets then, and they aren't secrets anymore because there's no reason to keep them secret, since the KGB doesn't exist anymore... I mean, theres so much about kgb, I dont know and my grandfather doesnt know... You do what you are told, you do it with out any questions. End of story. You ask to many questions, you find your self dead the next day. I'm still curious to know why stealing top secret documents gets you a promotion but asking a question gets you killed. Just don't argue with him any more. He's more dense than the desk I'm sitting at. Ovu please tell me what did you find out KGB ON THE INTERNET? laugh.gif LOl, even if you were to get to work there, you would not find out [cabbage]. You dont know how hard it is to get trust there Actually I DO know how hard it is to get trust there. Not hard at all. Know why? Because it doesn't exist anymore. I'm starting to think that he time travelled from the 70s and still thinks the Cold War is happening. the russians are the best! Hands down!
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