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Making millions of gold An easy and fun way to a fat bank account. No doubt, the fastest way to make money is to merchant. But merchanting is not so popular, as it does not do a good job at getting your levels up. Is there a way to do both? There is of course. You may have already heard of it, or you may not have. Either way, this guide can and will help you with those tricky GP. This guide not NOT GUIDE SPECIFICALY ON ANYWAY OF MAKING MONEY. IT USES SOME AS EXAMPLES. THIS GUIDE LETS YOU FIGURE OUT THE BEST THINGS TO MERCHANT FOR YOURSELF. If you are creating items that require materials, pay attention to the following. Get the materials the first time your self, if you do not have the money to buy them. If you have the money to buy them, then --> If the cost of all the materials is larger that the cost of the finished product, avoid it. If the costs are equal, avoid it. There should be at least a 100 gp difference if the items are stackable, and a 5K + difference if the items are not. This is one type of merchanting. It is taking a low value object, and creating it into something new, and selling it for a price higher than the original value. The final product must be high in demand. For example: Nature runes sell for 325 each, and can be sold via marketing forums. They can be sold in large quanities, and the materials needed can also be sold in large quanities. 1 nature rune needs 1 pure essence. The cost of essence is 100 each. Subtract it from the final products value, which is 325. The profit made is 225 gp. That right there is big cash. Lets see. 5000 pure ess would cost you 500000 gp. With 5000 pure ess, comes 5000 nature runes, hence 1625000 gp. 1625000-500000=1125000. You just made a 1.125 million profit. How about this: 10000 ess, for 10000 nature runes? Use 1 million of your previous profit (you know have 625k left) to buy 10k essence. ! million is the cost. Sell 10k nature runes for 3250000. You made a profit of 2250000. You know have 3250000 gp, plus the previous 625000, which makes your total bank account have 3875000 gp. That is money making. Of course, the same time doing this, you are raising your skill to make higher runes. This nats buisness is nothing new, and you probably know it already. It is just an example of how a 225 gp difference between the materials and final product can be an advantage to your bank. Lets look at another example. Buy about 4k coal, and 2k iron. That will cost 1 million gp. Make steel bars (while leveling to be able to make rune) and you will have 2k steel bars. You have 2 options here. Sell the steel bars 550 each and get 1.1 million gp, or make cannonballs and sell for 200 each. ! steel bar makes 4 canon balls, hence each steel bar would give you 800 gp. 2k steel bars would give you 1.6million. This is a 600k profit!. This type requires 2 materials to make the final product. In both ways, you will be getting 1 skill up. You could also buy the bars for 550 each, and in rusult you would be getting a nice 800gp each time, a 250 gp profit per bar. You like magic? Want to get that up too? The final cost of the final product should be greater than the cost of the nature runes+materials. For example: Buy 1k nature runes, plus the materials needed for product. If the high alch value gives a profit, continue. Remember, There most be at least a 100 gp profit in it for you for notes! You may have already known this. If so grats to you. There are many who don't know this, and there are many more ways to make money of course. But all ways of making money should follow those guidelines to get money. Please I ask you, do not flame, but give me some advice, to improve this guide. This is my second guide.

I'm all in for magic. I think it is the most important thing in the game. So I guess runecrafting would be useful. I heard battlestaving was pretty good. I think it is the best way to make money. isent it?

Thanks, how much do pure ess cost? How much do nats sell?

Money, is money, and you need it. My first time making money was beleive it or not, killing goblins, hoping to get 100 gp. My first 100 gp was created 1 week later. I then got into smelting and miing. I made the highest item i could, and sold it to a general store, then later, the specialty shops. After a long time, my smithing was 60, and my mining was 65. I did this only once, and got bored: Mined 1k coal and sold for 200k. Bought my first full rune. Time passed, I got my runecrafting to 30, and my combat skills to 60, and my magic to 50. I did this once also: I bought 4k coal, 2 k iron, took 2 weeks to make 2k steel bars, sold for 550 each, mafe 1.3 million, but only had a 300k profit. And it ook as long as hell! Not doing that now. Right now, I am stuck. Should I do one of the following: Buy pure ess, make nature runes, and have my profit there? Get my mining to 70 and mine addy, and sell it? How much does it sell for? Should I make battlestaves? What are the recomened and minumin skill levels to start it? do you recomend it? Should I do one of those? or am i in the wrong direction. please help me.

Yea, I should be sorry. Im not a flammer, but something else happened that got be a bet hot. My bad. :D Ill try to improve this guide, and make in-depth everything. This is my first guide, and I'm going to improve it alot.

There, I updated it. V2, much more organized

this guide is very good. I will rate this a 8/10, but.... it would be better if you took out the word noob and put in begininers. trust me... and you should expand it a bit more. The maps are sweet, and it looks like you know what you are talking about.

I think that you should let the low player train, and leave him alone, hence, when skulled, the level 127's wont let you train either. get it....

Thanks, ill do those as soon as I can. (This essay on the Gulf war is killin me)

Thanks. About the rangers, i think they should wear defence ammy. It;s just the way i feel. I think they need that extra defence more than anything. But yea, I might wrong.

Thanks, never knew that. And please do rate my guide.

Im sorry, but I can't help but saying that this is just a bunch of ideas and tips which I believe are good. Sure, I don't mind you saying those things... but, there ideas and tips are only my recomendation. People have the chice to follow them, or not follow them. That is fair enough. If you do not wish to use teleport, then I cannot do much about that. You think it is more fair that 80 percent of PKers stand 2 feet away from the non wilderness zone in north varok? running 2 feet south to safty? You think that is much better, than using teleports and binds and prayors in the deep wilderness? I do not know why they made prayors. Oh yea, something along the line of helping you with combat, is it not? If you are unable to use protect from meele, and I am, that gives me the advantage, and I WILL use it to my advantage, just like the way it was meant to be. Im sorry, but I think your response to this topic is complete bs. No offence.

Why should I discourage it? I think that teleporting out of a fight is pretty fair. If you dislike the idea, then you can go even deeper. Don't you think? Please explain. Ps I added a survival section

GREAT! :lol: A very well orginized guide. How to make it better? underneath the mining places, provide a picture of the place.

THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO THE WILDERNESS. CONTENTS: SECTION A----- PLAYER-KILLING SECTION B----- TRAINING SECTION C----- WILDERNESS MANNERS SECTION A---------------------------------------------- The wilderness is one of the fastest ways to get rich. Not only does it provide an endless amount of treasure, but it also pumps your heart, and can be one of the most fun things you can ever do in the game. You can go by yourself and venture for riches, or you can go with your friends as a clan. Going with a clan can raise your chances of success, but will lower your individual profit becuase of splitting the loot. Free to play PKing is much different than P2P PKing, so I will not get into it too much, but rather I will make another guide on how to improve your success rate in member worlds. You can go to the wilderness as a MAGE, a WARRIOR (MEELE) , or as a RANGER. The most experianced PKers will find that going as all 3 types is the best thing to do, but requires more training, and more money. LOOK OUT! RUN! THERES A PURE! Nope, nothing to worry about! A smart player can outlast a pure, and kill it. Remember that pures will have NO DEFENCE, and NO PRAYER! They will have NO ARMOUR! Therefore, they will get hit frequently. In level 1 wilderness, you might worry about pures. level 1 wilderness is the WORST PLACE! So many people infest north of Varrock! Why? There is a 1 step interance in the non wilderness zone. YAY you wont die. Niether will your enemy! This is not a good place for training, or getting rich. It is a waste of food. A waste of everything. The real PKers venture out into the rune mines, runecrafting sites, training spots, mining spots, mage arena, and so on. You might not be able to teleport after level 20, but it adds a fare fight to your time in the wildy. You fight till death. You can get rich, with all his blood runes, rune arrows, rune armour, and so on, or you can loose yours. This is what makes you a true PKer. Of course, nothing wrong with freezing your victim, runing to level 19, and teleporting. In the deep wilderness, pures should not be such a problem. Its like trying to kill a guy with a combat level of 100 (you having 70) , but him with no defence. So the deeper you go, the less pures become a pain. Getting your essentials: Food: Cheep food, lots of it, and very fast, next to a range. Perfect for trips to the wilderness. Sometimes of course, there are 30 swordies, sometimes, 7. Switch worlds if you have to, this is the best way for fast cooked food. ( not long ago were there 70 swordies in the shop selling at 40 each). Teleports: Bring 3 times the runes neccessary for your desired teleport locaction. Falador is good becuase it is close to the fish shop south of it. Places to check out: North Varrock 1-step-to-safty 1 on 1 edgleville's 1-step-to-safty: Dark Night Fortress: As far as your F2P world lets you go: - rune miners will be here, switching worlds, looking for full rocks. If you can catch one mining, be prepard to be selling some valuable rune ore. (IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PLACES THAT I HAVE NOT MENTIONED, THEN PLEASE CORRECT ME. I WILL ADD THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE) What should I fight as...?: ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS bring ONE skimmy of the highest metal you can wield if you are PKing as a mage or ranger, for a sidearm. They are the perfect sidearm when arrows are low, or runes or low. If you are coming as a melee with another rune weapon, obviously this does not apply to you. You can do one of the following. ONLY bring monks robe, blessed symbol, food and your choice of attack. You can bring Good armour for meele/arrow attacks, and have a set of green dragon-hide for fighting mages. If you have 50+ magic, come with alot of death runes and water runes for it can hit fairly high. I do not really like ranging, as it does not hit very high. You could if you wish, but I prefer to come as a cross of a mage and a warrior. I usualy bring a rune plate body and plate leg, an anti-fire shield, and i keep the best mage robes in my inventory. I use the anti-fire shield becuase it does not lower your magic attack value, hence no need to waste time unwielding it. If you choose to only be a certain style, here are my recomendations: Mage: -At least 100 death runes, + air-staff and side runes (which ever works for you) -Full blue robes, with an anti-fire shield. a powerammy, becuase you need the extra defence bonous. teleport runes, and runes to cast curse, and bind. Warior: - Full rune, and a weapon of your choice. - Stat boosting potions - Lots of food - If you are able, bring a set of dragon hide to kill mages teleportation runes. Ranger: - Full dragon hide - At least 300 arrows. -food -teleportation runes - Defence ammy Clans: A clan can be very difficult to manage. I recomend to PK with CLOSE FRIENDS THAT YOU TRUST. The people who ask you to team up are craving for your armour! Always have a long distance attacker , and a close distance attacker. Many people don't realize the importance of a carriar. Get a good friend to come along with your clan. He will be the one person who you must protect. He or she will carry EXTRA food for your clan. If you are running out, he will provide you with food. Keep him out of battle, and he should not be wielding any weopons. Another food carriar would be even better. Somebody to carry your loot is even better than that! But it MUST be somebody you trust. If you are low on food, WALK back to the nearest bank. DON"T telport back unless you need to! If more than half your clan telports to safty, you should follow them regardless if you have full hitpoints. STAY TOGATHER! Make sure you have a level 3 carriar, so he cannot be attacked by your victims! Survival: Always have your inventory open, so you can use your food in time. When down to the last 2 food, and your enemy ate till he is full, I recomend opening up you spell book, and teleport when you only have 1/4 health remaining. If you are deeper than level 20, bind him, and run south until level 19, there you should teleport. Remember, the bandit camp is perfect for you pizza needs, and is cheep, and has all the ingrediants ready on the table. Sell some of your loot to the general store, and use the money to buy pizza base. If a group of people come, you might want to be ready to teleport. MAKE SURE you ALWAYS go to pray when you have 0 prayor. You have all the time you need. Use your food wisley. While walking around, don't eat till full health. Use a prayor to restore your health, on the way to a chaple. Then you can pray, and keep on restoring health. If you have no teleport spells, and you need to get to safty, LOG OUT! Come back another day, when your friend is willing to come to your aid and give you more supplies to get back saftly. If you are able to use the home telport, then use it at a safe place. If you used it before, and need to wait for the recharge, then LOG OUT as a suggested. There is nothing worst then loosing your loot afer all that hard work. If you are being attacked be a meele only, I suggest that you RUN away if you can, and log out ( keep pressing log out until you are able to) . Or, use snare or bind (not sure which f2p can use) and hold him for 5 seconds. Use that time to run away, and log out. ***If you die, do not cry. That makes it fun, dieing and winning. More times loosing your things up there, gives you a better feeling when you return saftly. Tactics: Clans: As I mentioned earlier, the best tactic is to come with a group of friends, having 2 or 3 people make a level 3 account, and use it to give extra food to the fighters. There Should be at least 2 meele fighters. They will stop the victim/victims from proceeding towards the rest of your team. Have at least 2 mages, to deal powerful spells, bind spells, cure spells, and destroy armoured melee victims. Have at least 2 rangers to take out enemy victims, and have them take out the long distance attackers first. Have your carriars off in the distance, or in the middle of the fight (if they are level 3 and safe from the victims). It is good to have a plan for your clan, escape routes, exedra. Have a strong leader say out load support, which can morally give potential for a successful kill. You may wish bring and lure players deeper into the wild, and kill them there. (After all, this is the wilderness). If you don't have a clan, but have a group of close friends, then you can just give a name, becuase that is what a clan is. A name for a group of friends. Lone wolf: Hmmp, probably the most common use of your character. If you choose to play as this, then I advice that you wonder around the Dark fortress. There, are alot of single fighters wishing to have a bit of fun. Yes, you can teleport out of this region, but that is how things work. To prevent yourself from loosing your things, you would teleport also. But, if you wish to have a fight till death match, then just tell him or her to come deeper in the wilderness. You should play as all 3 classes here, killing him with your sword, and chasing him with your longbow. If you wish to come as a ranger, than this is one tactic lessly used. If you are against a warrior with armour, then attack him, run, attack him, run, attack him, run and so on. you can run faster than him and longer becuase your d hide is feather like. If you attack him once every 5 seconds, that is still good. Soon, he will run away, and you will chase him with your longbow. He will run to you, then you run back. Always staying a good 10 feet away from him. Mages can do the same thing, but i recomend bind, take hit, attack him, bind, eat, take hit, and so on. This is very effective when used properly. If you wish to try these things out, then do so on a monster. The 5 minute team up: I do not recomend this, but you may do so. Find a similar level player, and ask him to team up. togather, you may fight and be friends, or turn your back on him or her, and thrust your weapon in search for the full rune he or she wears. Hit and run for long distance combat: Make sure you train on a moster first. Make sure you don't have a heavy load, and keep run only when using hit and run. Attack, run away, attack, run away, exedra. Effective against fat melee armour. That pretty much sums up player-killing. Please, add you additions, and I will credit your ideas. SECTION B--------------------------------------------- The wilderness is very useful for training. It may be dangerous, but if you know what you are doing, then you should be fine. Remeber, most of the monsters are also found in non PvP areas. Some unpopular, GOOD training areas in the wilderness have the same experiance in the other places of runescape. Then why would I recomend going to the wilderness? A) You have all the monsters to yourself B) you have a bandit camp not to far from any point in the wilderness, and C) the feeling of adrenaline when PKers come your way is priceless. Bring the same things you would bring to a PK trip ( rune skimmys hit often and fast, giving alot of xp, which is why you train in the first place) Ice giants: Good drops, safe route , low defence, high hit points, no ice warriors ( I HATE THEM ). This is THE place to train. I don't recomend going to the wilderness for deamons, becuase it is too polulated there, plus PKing for rune ore, makes your time there miserable. There are plenty of deamons elsewhere. This spot here gives you cosmic runes. I got about 100 every trip. To get here, start from fally, and head north west until you can't go west or north anymore. Greater deamons: The strongest, and best training monsters for high levels. Drops the most expensive drop in F2p, the rune full helm. Prayer: The wilderness is THE best place for bones in F2P! Bones everywhere! bone respawns, and chaos temple! Perect!. Just look at the map, (north of varrock). Even more north is a skelital yard with big bones. Mining: What can I say? You aint getting rune from Mining guild, thats for sure. North of lava maze, beside red spiders, 2 rocks. Switch worlds while waiting for the rocks to turn blue. Meh, coal? Mith? you name it SECTION C---------------------------------------------- BE NICE :x When your victim has his last view of you, say something nice, like good fight! Dont say bye you noob froob or whatever the word is nowadays. The wilderness has the tendancy to bring the mean out of nice. Don't forget that the rules still apply to you whether in the mouth southern part of the world or the most northern. Report verbal abuse, and racial comments like always. If you see somebody training, to bother em or not is up to you. Me? I would start tickling him with the end of my skimmy! :mrgreen: :-w THIS GUIDE IS STILL NOT COMPLETE, AND WILL HAVE UPDATES SOON. THIS INCLUDES TRAINING PICTURES, IN-DEPTH TACTICS, AND COMMONLY USED ROUTES. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD TO THIS, AND i WILL CREDIT YOU! THANK-YOU HAPPY PLAYER KILLING :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Don't merchant anything. Merchanting won't get you fast money. I used to merchant huge amounts of ores, until I realized that It was BORING> If I were you, I would buy some raw materials, and craft/smelt them into other things in demand. You can sell, make money, and get your xp. A good example would be to buy some ores, and smelt it, and sell it. Runecrafting is another big thing. Just make nature runes and you will be rich. RICH

thank you all. About the steel bars and making profit over that, i can buy all the materials i need coal and iron, for about 800k, and ill make about 2k steel bars. I won't high alch them, i will just sell them to other players who buy steel bars.

Thanks alot. I think i'm going to do some slayer for the magic dart. only 1 death, and 4 mind. and hits 19. pretty sweet.

I am not sure if somebody else mentioned this, If so, then maybe this could be a continuation, and i apoligize. THE RUNESCAPE ECONOMY I stopped playing this game for 4 months. Was busy playing battlefield 2 special forces. One of the greatest game ever. But, After i was promoted to a L. General, i got all the unlocks, and got bored. One thing i love about this game is the economy. gives you a real glimpse of the stock market in real life. ( i think there should be a stock market in runescape too!) When I left, these were the prices of coal. 300 each. Good, i can make money by selling it. I come back, sombody calls be a noob for selling for 250 gp each. :shock: Okay, so it is around 150. Full rune? somebody selling for 175k. Nobody selling for 200k! It seams everything dropped. EVERYTHING! Why? How can the price drop? isn't coal ALWAYS in demand? infact, i can barely find anbody who sells more than 1k at a time! is that becuase of the price drop? Why did full rune go down? where more people able to make full rune? These rares, do them going up in price have an impact? I saw somewhere, somebody, made a autobot. A duplication program. Duplictaed party hats into the thousands. He got banned, along with his fortune. Why do the things i need so much go down in prices? sure, good for me. But the things i sell seem to have dropped too. I was gona get my runecrafting up to 54, to make laws. How much can i sell them for? are they high in demand? this pure ess thin, 100 each? from my buisness in varrok for 25 each, i have to pay 100? More? could somebody explain all these majour changes?

Being a new member : have some questions Which skills should get my main attention? which quest should get my main attention? How much money should i need to start off fun? Which is more effective in the wilderness and other pvp places. The iban blast, the magic dart, the god spells, (I aint 85 yet so I aint gona be able to hit 30's in a long while) acient magicks, or the blast/wave spells? Price is also a HUGE factor. I aint the richest man alive. (nor the poorest) Im getting my runecrafting up, to make laws, and sell 1k each. Or am i making a mistake? Umm, can i use the member attacks on f2p players in f2p worlds? Can i use f2p weapons against them? thank you for those who point me to the right direction. Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

All these people being pures. Okay, you have a low combat level. And you hit high. Big deal. Does not really matter becuase I'll be able to kill you in level 20 wilderness. Right? Or, do you prefer the useless varrok and edgle ville pking. Where as soon as he or she runs out of food, he or she runs 2 steps back in the city. Not very fun is it. wait- than why is that the most crowded places? We need more people in the dark fortress. So, is there another reason why there are pures, and are they still powerful in the deep wildy?

LOL! Not a bad way of making money! but somebody forgot to mention the time it takes to smelt 1k of steel. not very fun to do. And, nobody will sell 1k coal, which took a lifetime to mine, for 150 gp. They sell for 200 each. Iron, about 100 to 150. So, what to do? obviously buy 5 k pure essence for 500k, and make some laws. Sell them all for 500 to 1k each. Thats how you merchant.

you will soon realize that this skepter is a waste of food. You cant use it to teleport out of a fight. it does notthing with combat. It doe not look to good. LOL. but anywayz.

Nothing wrong with beggars. They have not been playing for a long time to understand how the game works. Once they understand how hard it is to make money, then they wil not beg again. If not, then just teleport him to another land!

Best place is the wilderness in a F2P world. There is a huge cluster of coal rocks and ALOT of mithril rocks all in a tite ball. There are some hobgoblins to kill with your rune pickaxe, and once you have been there for a while, they don't seem to bother you alot.