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i support! great idea

great event, we had about 75 people at max. thanks everyone who came...

thx. lawl, bring all the items u want, people r just gonna pj u... i am SUGGESTING 1 iteming, and even if we only have 25-50 people it is still gonna be a lot better, we have regular designated teliers etc.... edit: i was at all the icing, and one of the main telliers is a friend of mine

Just to make this clear: GANGSTER DID NOT LURE (unless that dude who went to edge was with him) the ice pleatue(sp) tellies were my friend. i knew he was gonna cast em. i gave him the laws/astrals for the spell. we were both bored, and had been waiting around for 40 min for drop party + levels, but got sick of waiting and i hate fake parties. as for phats/valuables lost: two people came on the first teliport (from inside house) 0 people came on 2ed teliport (from north east of edge) the two people who came from first telly: 1 person with whip/sara god book/sara cape - i killed with dds specs (they nearly got me, i was 1 iteming) - i got about 200 gp worth of runes 2ed person: lower level. they coulda killed me, i had about 15 hp, but they just ran... i got: 25 laws and airs no phats lost, etc. idk what happened around edge, i wasn't there for long

nice guide, knew all the tricks (even if i dont like em all) hiding inside main gate ftw :) extra stuff to mention: suggested invontory another way to trap flag - snare/entangle them, put a cade in front of them and stand on it - they wont see it for several sec after the snare/entagle has worn off when hiding in main gate and someone comes around inside (wear d hide if there are mages), run out, then follow you out, run back towards the gate one step, drop cade and run inside doors and close :) nice guide

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(copied from official Runescape forums - i wrote it on there - link at the bottom of thread for link) ### Welcome to World 66 - Icing ### founding date: june 2, 2007 What is world 66 Icing: a group of people who like having fun How: people with 90 magic for "Tele group Ice Plateau" cast that spell just north of the bar in Fally, what it does: offers you a free teliport to lvl 53 wilderness! once you accept the teliport (has several warnings about the danger) you will be teliported ice plateau, run around, kill poeple, try not to lose your one item when you die! see below for more suggested and not suggested things... suggested item to take: - DDp(++) (most popular) - cbow - another drag wep Suggested things not to take: - 0 prayer - items you are not ready to lose - hard to replace items like Rune Defenders - low level pures - they just get owned by the aggressive ice warriors Additionally: - respawn point in Fally - accept aid "on" - world 66 - no need to say "ice me - *name*" - when they cast the spell, it offers the teliport to everyone within a 3x3 grid around them (similar to ancient magics "multi" strike, but can hit everyone) Hope to see you all there! (copied from official forums - i wrote it though) Time zones: Saturday June 9th Event Time Zones: GMT: 8 pm EST: 3 pm PCT: noon Australia: morning sometime everyone else: sorry EXTRA INFO: if you have 90+ mage, you can help teliport people! grab 16 waters, 3 laws, 3 astrials, and go teliport! (use a water/mud staff if you are not skulling) thread on official forums: http://[Please Use QuickFind Code].com/id/409526055706...43,785,45013230 quick find code: 42-43-785-45013230

tip.it calc's dont work for me in general... (none of them look up highscores for me, and on some of them other stuff doesn't work) so i use runehq for calcs i use firefox btw.. i also like how their guides have more pictures....

1) you are kinda missing the point. i'm saying that they are helping lots of people (but not everyone) by producing these items 2) ironic that you have 99 fletching? i'm sure you bought your yews not from normal players (500 or 1000 at a time) but from macros or others (10,000+ at a time...) too bad no one can see the advantages of them... i think that many of you have predisposed against them... put that aside and look at some of the advantages.. also person-with-99-cons: depending on when you got it, you most likely bought planks from macros (they are really the only ones who make them these days) (search the forums for "selling oak planks" its horrible - "selling 100k oak planks 400 ea..." "selling 75k oak planks 380 ea..."

1) thanks 2) i agree - but search for the official forums... "selling 100k yew logs" "selling 50k yew logs" (both 300 ea) you call these normal players? sure, there are a lot of other posts "selling 1400 yew logs" etc, but i would guess well more than half of all the yews are being produced by macros (many of the macros are F2P, so they cant post on forums, so check out world 1...) as for lobsters: Results for "selling raw lobster": (these are the first 5 threads that popped up) Selling 1k Raw Lobsters in forum Food Selling 100k Raw Lobsters in forum Food SELLING 240K RAW LOBSTER 215EA in forum Food Selling Raw Lobster in forum Food <-- (500 of them) Selling 22k raw lobster 220ea in forum Food 4) they are not mining there essence though, and while they maybe be burying from normal players, it might not (and the 10's of thousands of essence it took to get to 99 defiantly were not all normal player 5) i love skilling. when i skill, i dont get 10's of thousands of these items. i never have gotten a 99 (and dont really plan on it soon) so there is a chance that is where all this supplies is coming from... and the number of skillers working on yew trees in any F2P world doesn't match up with the number of normal other skillers (F2P and P2P combined) thanks though

Why Macros are HELPING the RS economy... ***Note: when i say "macro" i am referring to bots, gold farmers, and people who play rs as a RL job and not to have fun *** Macros are annoying. log into any F2P world, and what do you see? 10 macros piling a poor yew tree. or buying runes from all the rune stores. or buying feathers from the fishing shops. or mining gold ore in the crafting guild. or coal in the mining guild. MACROS ARE TAKING OVER RUNESCAPE. Then in all the member worlds they are killing green dragons, fishing shark and lobsters, and crafting planks. well, atleast they are helping the economy why they are at it... Why macros actually HELP: Whats the most common Skill cape? without looking at the high scores, i would say cooking. then fletching. What sort of skills are these? are skills that take some resources and turn them into something else (that is usable in a different way hopefully)... where do many of these resources that are bought in bulk come from? macros... Lets track the major skills that use resources to train: Cooking Fletching Crafting Herblore Prayer Firemaking Smithing Construction Magic Range Of these 10 skill only these 5: Smithing Herblore, Fletching Crafting Cooking produce other (useful) items out of them. Now... how do macros tie into these skills? well, of the other 5 skills that don't produce anything (much) tradeable (construction, prayer, firemaking, magic, range) the macros effect all of these 5 skills. Construction: macros cut logs and make planks in bulk Prayer: kill dragons for their bone. (some gather big bones in the wildy) Firemaking: Cut logs Magic: mine essence which is in high demand for rc'ers, so macros also indirectly effect this skill too. also, they cut logs for fletching which provides high-alchemy exp. macros also buy runes from stores then re-sell... Range: again, macros indirectly effect this by cutting logs for player made bows (most of which are alched, but some make it out there into the hands of players) These 5 skills, all the money you spend on them (buying the (non-refundable) resources to train them) supports macros. Now lets not forget our other 5 skills that produce stuff... Smithing - Macros mine ore (especially gold, coal, iron) to sell to you Herblore - in my experience, i have not run into macros gathering herbs/2eds. great. we have one "clean" skill. Fletching - oh man... log into a f2p world... go to any yew tree. this is where you buy your 75,000 yew logs for 99 fletching. Crafting - again, macros killing dragons supply dragon hides which is the best way to get high crafting Cooking - macros fishing... catherby these days has been overrun OUCH! of the 10 skills that are trained off of other skill's byproduct, 9 of them macros are effecting. what does this mean? that macros are taking advantage of rich players, cheep human/robot labor, and the byproduct is real life money for them, and 99's for you... which leads me into my next point: Skill capes are better for macros than normal players What? but macros don't play the game to show off like we do with out shiny skill capes! how can it benefit them? ... well, for one, it motivated 1,000' if not 10,000's of players to jump up, and go spend their money on those flashy capes. and when the demand for the yew logs/raw shark/ores/dragon hides/ dragon bones/ firemaking logs/oak planks started going up, so did the number of macros, right there, providing your resources cheaper than they should be provided by normal players. Win-win situation right? you get the exp as cheap as possible, and they get their money (which presumably goes off and is sold for real life cash). well, not so. what about when you were a noob? when you didn't know about merchanting, and making money from trading? yea, when i was a noob i fished and wc'ed a lot. but... what happens now when i cant sell my puny 400 yews that i gathered over 2 weeks when the macro sitting next to me is selling 50k yews, at the same or lower price that i am? this is the first of two disadvantages of macros. they cut off lower level players from getting more money (when compared to the past when it would have been easier, without macros). the other disadvantage? people who buy money. assuming they don't get caught and banned for real world trading, this gives a huge advantage to those players who buy money then... spend (at least some of) it on the very resources that made this money in the first place. what a vicious cycle... so, what do we get out of all of this? ignorance is key. you can go out and boycott macro produced good by not training the skills that are listed above by buying items in bulk... or you could take advantage of it. train your skills while you can. if Jagex figures out some way to stop all these macros, then prices will [bleep]e, because normal players can never keep up the rates of production that the macros have set. ~~~~~~~~ My personal opinion ~~~~~~~~~~ I think that the macros should be delt with, banned, and removed in general from Runescape. while i recognize their advantages, it does not justify other players getting the advantage over others by buying RuneScape GP. if Jagex wanted that to become legit, they could easily put something like that into effect. Jagex could also start stores (run by NPC's) that would stock 10's of thousands of different resources, that you could "buy x" noted... but this would have the same problems on lower level players as the macros have - taking taking away their "jobs" So i say: take advantage of them while they are around, but don't interact with them beyond that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List of Macros: [*:3svakhhb]Feather buying [*:3svakhhb]rune buying [*:3svakhhb]gold ore mining [*:3svakhhb]yew cutting [*:3svakhhb]willow cutting [*:3svakhhb]flax picking [*:3svakhhb]shark fishing [*:3svakhhb]lob fishing [*:3svakhhb]essence (pure and normal) mining [*:3svakhhb]dragon killing (green drags only from my experience) [*:3svakhhb]big bone gathering Originally posted on Affliction (90+ pest control community) - Written by myself Please reply if you bothered reading

i dont think it ignores - just has a chance to ignore... so yes, it can hit thou their armor

yep. pm me if you would like to join a 90+ one (idk what your cmb is) otherwise, its kinda worthless and you will lose a lot .... you could always go to world 78 and win now and then, and get the exp from in game alternative: rock crabs lots of hp, sometimes crowded, there are more of them (closely grouped) than experiments

In F2P, you need -- 5 gp for the Varrock apothecary. He is located south and then east from the west bank. Or use the official Jagex world map to flash the location for you He will make a 4 dose str potion for you. -- limpwort root. A common drop form hobgoblins. Look west of the crafting guild. -- red spider eggs. They spawn at the end of the Varrock sewers and under the Karamja volcano. If you are very low level then just suicide grab them. Hope this helps limps are also dropped by hill giants west of vorrock (bronze key needed) if you are a lower level, dont worry about getting killed by giants - its always crowded and you can pick up drops left there red spider eggs: edgevill dungeon, in the wildy a little bit (level 4-5)

its great money and ok exp. no def needed. from 65 (or so) range till 77 i killed 2k or so for 70 prayer i say iron arrows, and 70 agility is ftw. as for whoever commented before about green drags and blue drags being crowded: macros have invaded the green dragons, and blue dragons are always like that.. suggestion: if killing blue drags when its crowded, take air and mind runes for one-click attacking (of course, if you are above 111 cmb, you dont need it) i only died there like 6-8 times during my ranging streak. never lost anything except half a load of bones one time - with your respawn point in fally, you can get back in under 2 min. (i was reading forums and doing stuff like that every time when i got killed)