Hedgehog

In every transaction both the buyer and seller win. In your system, only 1 person wins.

@Nash Your ideas are nice, but making a lot of rare drops probably wouldn't benefit the economy at all. For example, if you went to bandos, you wouldn't be able to sell the bcp you got to buy skills. If a system similar to glacors was added, where you get an untradeable drop every few kills which can be added together to make a powerful untradeable object (ik arma battlestaves are tradeable, but thats the only part of the system I dislike), everything would work out alright. But in general, being self-sufficient is bad for the economy as a whole. What we need is more items like void and chaotics, where you spend time as opposed to money to get. This will lead to more player run bots, but that's a lot better than gold farmers.

It's very hard for Jagex to ban bots because, first of all, they have to be monitored, sometimes for weeks, to make sure they're not actually legitimate players, and, second, for every bot that's banned, there's two more ready to take its place. Obviously banning isn't the solution then. Which leads me to believe that Jagex needs to cut off rwt at its source: the players. That means creating incentives to play by the rules and creating disincentives to buying gp. This can be accomplished fairly easily through a number of means: Creating more untradeable items If the highest tiered items were untradeable, then people would have to put time rather than money into becoming elite. This doesn't mean things like overloads which you need to buy levels to make. Think chaotics. Think imbued rings. Give castle wars better rewards. Allow hybrid armor to be used outside minigames. The possibilites are endless. Jagex made a step towards this with the Armadyl Battlestaff. All they need to do is create more updates like this, but make it untradeable. Adding more daily activities Add more things like MTK and herb runs. If gp can be earned painlessly, people will be less inclined to spend real life money on it. It's a fairly simple concept that can have a big effect. Creating ways to train skill that don't cost a lot of money Jagex did a great job of this with the Jadinko Lair. People don't need to buy cash to train firemaking, except below 83 fm, which only costs a couple mil at most. This needs to be applied to more skills. If we could train prayer effectively without buying dragon bones, don't you think people would? Or if you could train construction with a minigame? Again, the possibilities are endless. The trick is just to make sure the new method isn't the most efficient, so gp still has value. Making it clear that buying gold is bad I've found a lot of ignorance of the cause of the botting problem. Too many people think RS is overrun by bots because Jagex allows it to be. Truth is, they're only around because we let them; the players are the ones that buy gp, not Jagex. They need to make this clear. Make the log in message say that it's illegal to purchase gold using real life money. Do whatever it takes to raise awareness. I can guarantee less people will buy gp if they knew how bad it was for the game. Make gold selling and botting sites censored I can tell someone to go to runescape-store.com if they ask for the best way for a noob to make money. If they ask for the best way to get 99 mining, I can tell them to go to rsbuddy.com and download DimensionicMINER. That's just sick. -It's worth adding that they should readd tutorial island and add a capcha system to curtail the amount of spambots that enter the game. I haven't listed every solution, and chances are the ones I did list aren't the best, but the idea of this thread is to promote discussion of beating bots by adding incentives, so please put in your input.

You both look dumber every post. Stop arguing.

Nope

I'd kill myself if I lived in Canada.

Let's all try to be nice to each other.

or a 34 year old tranny from Kenya. We would never know I have internet. I don't live in Kenya.

I am clearly fluent in Lithuanian because I'm a 14 year old girl from Lithuania.

gėjų seksas

Lietuvių kalba yra labiausiai vartojama i rytų baltų kalbų. Ja neka apie 3 mln. monių Lietuvoje, iek tiek Baltarusijoje ir Lenkijos iaurės rytuose (vadinamos lietuvių kalbos salos). Be to, nemaai lietuvikai kalbančių yra JAV, Kanadoje, Jungtinėje Karalystėje, Airijoje, Ispanijoje, Australijoje, Vokietijoje, Latvijoje ir kitur. Iki Antrojo pasaulinio karo lietuvių gyventa ir Rytų Prūsijoje, kur nuo XVI a. vidurio buvo isiplėtusi lietuvių literatūrinė bei kultūrinė veikla.

Kodėl aš nesuprantu suprante kad yra viską suprasti suprasti dar aš suprantu jus gėjų seksas kad aš suprantu ir viską ką padaryti kad suprasti kad jūs suprantate viskas suprantama ir aš suprantame kad jūs suprantate kad mes abu nes jūs suprantate suprantame kad mes turime kodėl jūs suprantate supratate.

jūsnieko=jūs nieko

Nothing. If you understand that you can't understand anything, you understand everything. but if you understand everything, then you understand that you can understand everything, which means you can't cant understand anything, which means you can't understand everything which means you don't know that you can understand everything if only you understood that you can't understand anything! viską tada kad jūs nieko jūs suprasite kad galite suprasti jūs nežinote kad galite ką nori, o tai reiškia jūs negalite suprasti viską o tai reiškia suprasti viską suprasti viską o tai reiškia jūs negalite jei tik jūs suprato nesuprantu bet jei suprantu

I just had a thought. If Jagex really only cared about money, wouldn't they try to do something about the hundred of f2p autotypers? I'm sure those decrease the amount of people that buy members significantly. That would mean that the reason they're around is just that Jagex's bot detection system is just a failure. Am I just being stupid like usual, or does this make sense to anyone else?

I'm going to try my hardest not to get my hopes up.

Haha well its overwhelming on xpw aswell 6 fishing levels today :) None of this :P

I can understand the crawlers seeing as theres only so accurate your cannon can be on such weak creatures, and the rapiers damage would probably cinche the deal. But i do not understand your bandos. If maul is the best, then how come absolutley no one uses maul at bandos other than people without a CLS? I'm pretty confident that a CLS and dragon defender would be considerably better DPS than a maul. Or are you literally just saying that it's more accurate, as in hits less 0's per hit? Because that's pretty obvious... Levon did a study on it. The results are on xp-waste.com if you want to see them.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AheuzHmAkHUNdFhMcmljd0ltRGhtT1BMLVhBSVhtWEE&hl=en_US&pli=1#gid=0

For those of you dissing the Level 70 Crafting, and Power Amulets, those are just a mere small step on the way to someone making their own Glory Amulets. But unless you head past there, you won't get on your way, regardless of whether they're useless or not! Plus, what you earn from selling off unwanted Power Amulets lends to heading for making your own Glory Amulets. Which, might I remind you that being able to make your own Glory Amulets enables self-sufficiency, instead of having to go to the G.E. for your combat equipment! :ugeek: ~Mr. D. V. "You still have to go that way on Crafting, duh!!!" Devnull Self-sufficiency is bad. Plus no one uses powers after like 80 cb. Plus no one uses glories ater like 100 cb. No more trolling.

Grave blessings are really unimportant compared to piety, which is unlocked at the same level. Glories are better than powers, both of which can easily be purchased on the grand exchange.

I think it's updated whenever the ge updates.

And did you know that everything you touch is blessed and all the richer For your love a better being And if I display just a fraction of the soul you showed in this world, Then I know I'll see you again.