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realistically this wouldn't have been possible as it wasn't being tracked But it was. It would tell in the Adventure Log how many of each you had caught in intervals of 100, 1000, and 10000 I believe. I had them all complete so this is from experience. That being said they very well could have changed how they were kept track of.

It's a duel arena dammit! Just try dueling in a dual arena.... or whatever. Not going to write anything else in fear of making a spelling mistake for you to correct. /Elitism.

Does not those new Solomon pets collect charms?

I would agree with this if they didn't immediately hide the trails he so boldly blazed. Hell, I do respect him for doing just this and being the first(?) one to solo Corp. I do understand your reasoning. And to a point you make valid points. Where I think this argument falls apart though is the opinion stated by Jagex. To offer a different situation that shows what I am saying, I would mention that my favorite color is green. No matter how many people agreed that my favorite color is red based on past experiences with me wearing mostly red, driving a red car, dating a red hair girl, etc, it would not change the fact that my favorite color is not red. It is green. In the same way I contend that Jagex is the only one who can offer an opinion on whether this is a bug or not. They have and they at no point deemed it so. To digress to my example though, if Woox were to show why red was better than green; why I should changed my opinion, and I chose to change my opinion based on his argument, I could. That does not mean that my favorite color was red, or that I originally intended for it to be red. It simply means that someone changed my mind on how something should be. I think this instance with the KK follows the same path.

The spirit and letter that you describe however is not static but opinionated. Thus cannot be used to discus what is and is not a bug by the standards of those that have not offered their opinion. In this case however they have, and in this case they have shown that it was not in fact bug abuse.

I do not normally take part in arguments on forums because they are often petty and a waste of my time, but I am going to make an exception here because it suits me. In this argument, however, I do not have a dog as they say. I do not PvM, I do not herald myself as having an online presence, and I do not care about the opinions of people I will never meet. That being said I do read the Tip.it forums and as such have to read through arguments like this all the time. I know what i have to say will neither change the opinion of those who disagree with me nor will I feel better about the general petty nature of most posters here. So my argument is simply this: There are those here that assert that Woox's accomplishment is not impressive because he abused a bug. This 'bug' was not explained prior to it being changed nor could anyone have known that the developers had not intended that to happen. Jagex changing the mechanic after he solo'd the Kalphite King does not mean that he was aware that it was a bug and that he was abusing nor does that even mean that it was a bug at all. It simply means that he took advantage of a mechanic that he found (or learned from others) and used that to kill the Kalphite King. Jagex programmed the mechanic that way and I assume that they 'fixed' it to make him harder once they realized how easy it made him. Now who is to say that it was a bug at all? I certainly cannot nor can anyone else other than Jagex, and it just so happens that Jagex has already given their half of the story: That does not state that it was a bug at all. They changed the code to make the boss more difficult. Simple as that. Very much like re-balancing the Glacors. Since they changed the combat values to reflect the EOC changes, was it bug abuse for anyone that was killing them post EOC, pre-changes? More to the point, while I was going for 99 smithing, I was using the technique of smelting gold ore in the furnace and superheating gold ore with magic. Much later and well before I got 99, they changed this mechanic. Was I, and countless others, bug abusing? By the definitions given in this thread, I was, but then the argument of emergent gameplay comes into light. Surely the smelt/superheat was emergent gameplay and not bug abuse. "But it took them months to patch that, so it was not bug abuse," some might say. Perhaps. Or it was not as common knowledge as how the Kalphite King was solo'd. So then where do we draw the line for bug abuse and emergent gameplay? Apparently my answer has already been given to me. Prayer Flashing. By standards stated that would not be considered bug abuse. It is simply using the game mechanics that are available to the player base to get the most out of what we are given. If, however, Jagex figured out a way to fix that tomorrow and patched it, by the standards given, would it not have been abusing the way Runescape operates on ticks? Surely one could see the error in thinking that it would be anything but bug abuse. No where is it stated that prayer flashing is against the rules, it has never been classified as a bug, but if they changed it tomorrow (much like they did the Kalphite King), one would have to agree that it was abusing a bug if they were to use the logic in this thread. Now in the same way that prayer flashing is not a bug, so too was how Woox killed the Kalphite King. No where is there an official listing of what is and is not a bug. Therefor Woox had no way of knowing whether it was or was not a bug. No where has Jagex stated that it was, nor is there anywhere that showed us exactly how the 1 hit K-O worked. Thus there is no way one could argue that he abused a bug. Based upon the facts of this whole situation and not my feelings, one can easily see that Jagex has simply changed a mechanic that they did not like but before they did, someone showed them why they should.

Thanks guys, I guess I just did not get them as a drop the first time. I have them now though. Thanks again.

Well with the renewed chance to go kill Hati, I thought it would be a great time to get some combat xp. Unfortunately the gloves do not have any charge. Is this as intended because I did use the paws last year. I have killed Hait and Skoll this year. Skoll dropped the boots (fully charged) and the amulet. Hati on the other hand did not drop anything and only upon talking to the person south of Rellekka did I receive the head, cape and paws (with no charge). Since then I have been unable to get a charge on the gloves. ?? Was this intended?

So overnight I gained quite a few ranks. I went to bed around 8 PM last night but my ranks doe not show that. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/ranksc.png

I highly doubt that when a more reasonable explanation is that all the reflection and injectiong botters (whatever that means) are flocking to the only working bot, RiD. That being said I have no idea what any of that means, just using conext clues to understand the situation.

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My submission: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LapLv7izURPO_SgXradxSFZyBsPMnDEiD0QoG-Rlj44/edit?hl=en_US