brunokiller

It instantly died :( ;) 11 levels to go :

In order for statistics to prove a point, they must be correct. He backs it up with wrong statistics. Awesome afk xp, awesome charm drops, a task that is never crowded and a chance to get a 900k drop is more than good enough for me. More factors come into play when you decide to call a monster 'good' than just the drops ;) .

I have 97 slayer. (Neither musky44 nor that other one is my account, it's 'Brunokiller') Elaborate on your non-prayer, non-super set method, since I always do the zammy mages. Of course dragon boots make money. :roll: 1/80 drop rate? Dragon boots are 300k each, so on avarage you'll recieve 375k loot for 100 spiritual mages. About ~210k loot per 100 dark beasts. The easy afk experience and the charms they drop are more than worth that in my opinion. So your 100 kill sample is more accurate than my 1623 kill sample? You are contradicting yourself. He fails to admit his statistics are wrong. Yes of course I'd like dark beasts even more if their drops or the dark bow would be improved. You shouldn't just take the drops into account when you decide how good their drops are. Also I want to point out the following fallacies: Personal attack. Read this.

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haha yeah, we like the same things.

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To prove they are wrong. :thumbdown: It 'may be off'? Ha. If I am not allowed to multiply your 26k loss by 40 to calculate the loss for 4000 dark beasts then it means the 26k loss per 100 dark beasts kill isn't accurate at all. Therefore you cannot state you lose money on dark beast tasks and therefore all your calculations involving dark beasts are wrong. You don't make 'pure profit' with abyssal demons or spiritual mages. Spiritual mages need ppots and it's wise to use super pots for both. I copied this from my log(half of it actually, divorced parents). [hide=]145th 163 dark beasts. 20 blue 5 green 9 crimson 9 gold. 14 blood, 43 death, 80 chaos, rune chain x3, loop half key x2, teeth half key x2, adamant bar, adamant sq shield, 2 ranarr herb, rune full helm. 199th 182 dark beasts 27 blue 8 green 9 crimson 19 gold dark bow, 5 rune chain, rune full helm, rune bar, key loop half, teeth half key 2 death talisman, 53 death, 49 blood 70 chaos rune, 2 ranarr herb. 218th 157 dark beasts. 17 blue 2 green 14 crimson 16 gold 2 death talisman, 2 rune chainbody, rune full helm. Teeth half key, 67 nature rune, 35 blood rune, 23 death rune, 4 ranarr herb, 42 rune arrows. 242th 177 dark beasts 18 blue 5 green 13 crimson 17 gold 2 death talisman, rune full helm, rune chainbody, 3 ranarr herb, 2 kwuarm herb, 35 blood rune, 100 chaos rune, 33 death rune, 42 rune arrows. 275th 187 dark beasts. 28 blue 7 green 17 crimson 20 gold dark bow, rune bar, 2 rune full helm, rune chainbody, 5 ranarr, 2 kwuarm, 126 death rune, 110 chaos rune, 94 air rune, 28 blood rune, death talisman, adamant square shield, loop half key. 383th 142 dark beasts. 24 blue 7 green 14 crimson 12 gold 2 ranarr herb, death talisman, 49 death rune, 60 chaos rune, 47 air rune, 14 blood rune, loop key half, rune chainbody. 396th 161 dark beasts 13 blue 5 green 7 crimson 15 gold Death talisman, 3 ranarr herbs, rune bar, adamant bar, adamant sq shield, 2 key loop half, 1 key teeth half, 67 nature rune, 94 air rune, 21 blood rune, 23 death rune, 80 chaos rune, 150 steel arrows 404th 182 dark beasts. 19 blue 4 green 13 crimson 20 gold 5 ranarr herbs, 2 rune full helm, 100 silver ore, 80 chaos rune, 35 blood rune, 29 death rune, 94 air rune, teeth key half. 421th 139 dark beasts. 20 blue 3 green 12 crimson 14 gold dark bow, 3 ranarr herb, rune chainbody, adamant bar, 3 rune full helm, 2 death talisman, 3000 coins, clean kwuarm, 60 chaos rune, 14 blood rune, 141 air rune, 24 death rune. 443th 133 dark beasts. 16 blue 9 green 9 crimson 6 gold 3 rune full helm, 2 death talisman, 3 ranarr herb, 2 rune chainbody, 2 adamant bar, dragon spear, loop key half, 20 chaos rune, 38 death rune, 47 air rune, 14 blood rune.[/hide] In total I killed 1623 dark Beasts. I recieved: 3 Dark bows. = 2.4m 16 rune chainbodies. 500k 32 ranarr herbs. = 224k 12 rune full helms = 240k 1 dragon spear. = 37k And I cbf counting up everything else. In total I recieved 3,4m worth of items.(Even more as I didnt count the half keys). 3,4m / 1623 is 2,09k loot per kill. So if you kill 100 dark beasts you'll recieve 209k worth of loot: Minus expenses that is a profit of 109k; That is more than your cave slime. You have never proven dark beasts are worse profit than spiritual mages/ abyssal demons. Not to mention these are an afkers and summoners dream; I'll happily take a lack of whips for the amazing xp these guys offer.

Don't click on my abyssal minion to much ok?

Update: They forgot the following dungeons: Shilo underground gem mine. Khazari dungeon. Ape atoll dungeon Arposandra dungeon Brimstail's house. Grand Tree dungeon. They also forgot to add basic dungeon !'s to the Underground pass and Grand Tree dungeon entrances.

Where are my bronze dragons near the dust devils and black demons? And I'd also like an underground pass map. Nice testing Jagex :roll:

I'll get used to it I think :?

Wewt.

Lol I know Gavin, look at my chat :P

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We don't fight with made-up statistics here. 1. Spending equals losing 2. You said yourself that you spend 103k in supplies to kill 100 dark beasts(Fact) and you got 76k worths of items as a return(Fact). Therefore if you do not get a dark bow you lose 26K per 100 dark beasts.(Do I have to explain 76k -103k = -26k ?). 3. Completing the final calculation, you lose 26k per 100 dark beasts So you lose 26k x 40 = 1040k for 4000 dark beasts. Price dark bow=900k. Profit=returns - expenses. Profit = 900k - 1040k Profit = -140k. Seems like a great deal for all the xp and blue charms you'll get. 4. Mourner gear: just drop it when you start your task, when you are done go back to the mourners hq and kill a few mourners for new gear(yes, no blood stains on it or anything). I even managed to take more than one set to my bank, resulting in me having 21+ sets now. 5. Why use a war tortoise? When I didn't have 96 summoning I got 199 kills easily with a terrorbird. 6. Why do you even take a beast of burden for 100 kills? You only use 14 supply slots, 6 for mourner gear, and one for a teleport. You can get around with 21 (7 free) inventory slots easily. 7. Isn't that the same?

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How are mousekeys annoying to work with? If you use your mouse to change your viewing angle you can't use it to play at the same time. Looks like a hassle to me, but if you can handle it then it's a great idea.

Thats how much I lost(-26k) in 100 kills not 170, I spent 100k to kill 100! so your way off, read next time. and the last few psot are spam, post if you support or not and nothing else. You lost 26k when killing 100 dark beasts(100k supplies minus the loot without dark bows(74k)) I did say you lost 26k in 100 kills lol :P Fight like a man.

You spend 26k per ~100 dark beasts. So 4k dark beasts have cost you 1,1m. One dark bow is roughly 900k. So infact you have made a loss of 200k. 200k isn't anywhere near 3m. As your guesses/estimates are way off, we can question whether your numbers are real or made-up.

A dark bow alone is worth much more that your supplies. So therefore you have made a profit on at least one task. Notice the 'all'. You did slayer from 90-94 and killed 4k dark beasts. That is around 24 dark beast tasks. 90-94 slayer is around 150 tasks. So 1/6th of your tasks was a dark beast task. Duradel assigns 25 different monsters. So the chance to get a dark beast task is roughly 1/25. 1/6 is a LOT far from 1/25 My bs sensor is going crazy.

First off I have pictures of it on this thread and thats visual proof! Secondly, you getting 3 bows have nothing to do with me; I dont get that money you do. But it still is a player killing 100 dark beasts(yes, i got them in 100 kills). Lets say we take the avarage, then 1m>72k Why are you allowing yourself a 100 kill sample, and my 100 kill sample is sinply shoven aside 'because it has nothing to do with you'. Imo, dark beasts are fine as they are. And sworddude; they DO drop ranarrs. Here is your visual proof by the way.

Stupid people. Too bad they are everywhere.

I got 3 dark bows on my first task so your -26k estimate is wrong.

Would have preferred a bow tbh...

Just give us a lvl 95 slayer monster :P And make some 90+ content in some other skills too...farming, herblore, mining, prayer, agility, firemaking.....