I think the ditch is a great idea, enugh to warn the un knowing, cool enough to jump. Neat place for Maging the skeletons, w/ crumble undead spell. They can't cross to you (I hope). Excellent article, about the stupidity thing, some HAVE to learn the hard way. Totally agree on the whiners, oh woe is me pitty potters, I hate going to Lumby and many of the banks for that reason. Soo many wanting free stuff, 'I died', 'I'm broke' beggars, (would be nice to be able to stop them following and beggin). One continualy followed asking for 100K for 20 mins in Lumby. I shut off chat, etc, etc... still followed me. So I went to the jail, (the guards don't mess with me anymore, but whacked me a couple of times as a noob). My new shadow follows me, I stand there guards ignoring me, he is taking a bunch of hit points, I start walking in the other direction thinking mebe he got the mesage. But he runs back to follow me yet again, so I stood back with the guards, finally he ran off pretty hurt had lost at least 15HP to the guards. Is that pathetic or what. (But thank you jail guards, I will remember that little ploy) Another time I gave a poor person (so I thought) a bronxe pick axe, it's some thing if you have nothing. U can make quit a bit of cash with a bronze pick axe, although it does entail some work. This well meaning gift was met with a torrent of abusive language (which i reported) stating didn't want stuff like that, he wants cash. All of these though, you can please some of the people some of the time, you cannot please all the people all the time. Just do whats right, you'll be good to go. What you need will be provided for you. Totally awsome world folks, can't wait till we can set up the game center in our construction house to play RL (real life). Footnote: Everyone who likes to play the game honestly and fairly, please, please report the bots as often as you can. it is the only way we can help rid the world of them. I counted 22 bots, cutting 4 willows and two yews in Draynor on Saturday. Lets not even start on how many in the flax feild, or rune essence mine, I can never find poor Aubrey buried beneath the bots.