Dire_Wolf

Thanks for your help, but i just remmebered. That there is a explination of the things i dont get somewhere :D ... But as i am not english, it's a bit hard that i must admit. But i am gonna see if i understand it. If not i will post a new thread with more details. :mrgreen: Thanks for help though

Any chance you could do it on Tip.it Forum??

I have, and haven't found what i need help with.

I am not so good at learning how Game Maker functions work... I get somethings, but not all. So was wondering if there was someone who could help me out :oops: Thanks

Ask a moderator to move this thread to "Help and Advice", as this is wrong forum #-o On topic, Ankous ain't bad.

From what i have gotten with me: They see where you log in from... IP adress in other words.

I would ;) But with that said, i also doubt you trust me. Also isn't it a bit careless to ask on forum? And i guess your joking too. But hey reason i would help you solve it: is cause i don't lie to you when i say i am trustworthy. But i am just saying. :

Let me explain the two types of Account Sharing: 1: You get one-time help with something, from a well known friend/irl friend NOTICE: You don't get any advantage here. There is no 24/7 activity on account. Someone help you and once they have helped you, they go out of your account and you change your pass. As i said: This is stupid to do if you don't know the person very well. 2: You share your account with a wellknown friend/irl friend. This is as you say 24/7 with people across the globe. Now: Jagex has made "Account Sharing" rule to protect us from getting our account stolen and such things. So if Jagex's motiv is that 24/7 activity of a account: in other words: Highly account sharing is something that is unfair for game....then i agree. But i don't see how this should apply for players who do nr 1 account sharing. How is Jagex protecting us? They are literally threating us, that if we break the rule they are gonna bann us. One thing i would love to see, is that Jagex investegates the "ACcount Sharing Activity" (Many Ips..): So if they see many ips on a account, for a good time then they should realize that: this account is account sharing. So they should look into it and warn the owner. But baning people who's let someone be on their account just for one time, is overdoing it.

Actually the yews, is something you get. So you practically didn't have any money in the beginning...and to me i don't mind a good FM level. As for updates: I think that we might get updates, cause it seems that there are alot enthusiastic players here who suggested ideas. So i hope a player who don't give up helps us reach through Jagex with a suggestion :pray:

Yeah i understand what you mean. Unlike others i discovered things myself, although i have used guides :lol: Also i am happy to see that you have same thinking of it like me. But please do explain "Dire"? I am not English and i don't have a dictionary to look up words #-o Anyhow, about things. It's cool to help someone out, let's say puzzles. But believe me, i used tip.it guide on treasure trails website, and i didn't get it, :| . Back then i wasn't part of the forum community. But yeah i tried the guide, and i didn't manage it. But i guess you have to look it a other way: people are different. Something that's hard for you, might be easy for me ;) But i don't doubt that with a little training you can manage to solve the puzzle. But helping someone out in beginning, isn't bad to me. Also there's a disadvantage, if you need help with Puzzle: You gotta wait til your friend can solve it - In other words: that might motivate you to learn to solve puzzles :) But i wouldn't ask for help, unless it's a thing that's highly complex. Even if my best friend on runescape would solve puzzle for me, i doubt i would say "YES". Cause that's putting my account in risk....+ i like doing things myself :mrgreen:

By outlaw you mean ban? Anyhow, Jagex says the rule is to protect players from losing accounts and so on... The only thing i don't like by the rule: is that it's not investigated before you actually ban the player. I mean, ban those who really Account Share on highest level, rather those who just get one time help. One time helping i don't mind: Puzzles, killing Jad (The owner must get there, the helper helps killing boss), Do a quest (Not more than 1-2 quests or it's dumb), and so on. I don't see how these things are any benefits, the solo players are smarter and faster. So it's not like these things are hard for solo players to accomplish. Things i don't like: leveling, cash making, etc= things that takes alot time. As for accomplishment thing: I agree, there shouldn't be like that. But small things that is very very hard for a player, is something i accept. When i got puzzles as fresh Cluer, i found them impossible as hell! I always got and most of time dropped it. I was like "Darn" :wall: Anyhow for some raeson i kept trying and now my record is doing a puzzle in 5 min =D> But that's way of my gaming. But if a player who hasn't tried solving the puzzle....asks for help then that's another thing. But if a player has tried hard and still failed, i wouldn't mind lending a hand.

Yeah, it would be fair to the honest players atleast. :

Soz, double post.

That's true. But still Jagex should think of how activity of Account Sharing it is before they press "Ban". There is probably players who's let someone be on their account one time and gotten baned...while there's been two players sharing account and not gotten baned. But as i said: it's only affecting honest players as always. So don't see how Account Sharers loose in this topic, as they don't care about the rule... that concept is just a suggestion i thought of.

I can't seem to find the definition that you've mention using the link. Must be cause i am not English, harder to get through #-o But according to the definition it says "Account Sharing can be allowing people to divide the account activity any way they see fit." So the two players are Dividing the Account activity (In other words planned it), instead of randomly being on the account. So someone who you let be on your account for one time - still don't seem as "Account Sharing". It isn't planned, it's randomly and the two players have no intention of keep this going on.

Rsgamer, your reponse to Question 1, does make sense to me. But what it dosn't make sense is that "Jagex" or you can call that for Account sharing. That someone goes into our account for one time to help you.... Account Sharing: Means you share a account.... While onetime: is not, it can't be. It's against the meaning of "Account Sharing" How is it Account sharing if that person who let's say is on my account won't be on more after that??? How am i sharing my account to someone if that person won't be on my account after ive allowed him?!!! As for people who complaints to Jagex and says "I got hacked" when they really Account shared, is only their problem if JAGEX CLEARLY STATES that when and If allow Account Sharing.. As for players who can't do it themself, it's their problem. Jagex neither can us players be "Brain" for these players. It's not our job.... I don't want Jagex to ever allow "Account Sharing", but i wish that this rule about Account Sharing were only for playres who has clearly account shared. Where there is serveal Ips on a account everyday for at least 3 days and the activity of ips is big. This rule is only affecting the honest players of Runescape. It does not affect most of the account shares, as i know they don't care about the rule. I wish that Jagex someone made a system or thing that would split the honest players from the dishonest ones... It's Common Sense that you shouldn't Account Share with a stranger on the game or someone who you don't know well. If Jagex is gonna take the responsibility and be the "Dishonest players" Common sense, then they can for all care: Go and fix those players Real life problems too.... As i said: Account Sharing does not make sense to be the definition of someone being on someone's account for 1 time: It just don't sound right at all. The meaning of Account sharing: Does not make sense with someone being on a other persons account for one time. It does not, to me the reason alot players think it's like that is because Jagex has made the meaning of it like that...

I used to help a friend with Puzzle clues, but now that friend is pretty good on them : Other than that, there was nothing more.

Don't give me that "Account is Jagex property" thing, i know that well. Also, Jagex CAN Ban people who's spams about "I lost my account, JAGEX GIVE ME IT BACK!" Cause i said before in earlier posts: Jagex can "STATE" that "If you account Share, it won't be Jagex problem if you do a mistake. It will be yours." Further more Jagex can help and give advices about not to do it....but that's all they should do. But i came up with a idea ( But it's just a idea so...): The idea is that Jagex Automatically sents message to every player in Runescape... This is the message: "Do you "SirHemen" want "Account Sharing" Rule to apply for you or not? If yes, you will be baned for account sharing if you break it. If no, then it's totally your own responsibility to ensure your own safty for your account. So if you loose it, and spam the forums about it. We will ban your forum account. Jagex" Problem Solved? That he can't make a account, is his problem not Jagex or other players... As for my manners, what have i said that has offended you?

When two players play same account, one do the hard work and other don't it's only a problem between them. Also if the person who does hard work: don't get the credit, then its only HIS FAULT: Cause he could make a account of his own. So it's up to the players them self to take the choice and make a account. If you don't got any good arguments then it's not nessecary for you to post any comments :thumbdown: .

+1. That's great rule. Heres the thing, why is it that Jagex has made "Stronghold of Security" if , we ever account share: They will ban us? Then i tell you, what's point in it, if we can't make a choice on our own? I mean they have made a Stronghold with questions and everything, and even made the rule to protect us. But when it comes to us doing a mistake and account share and loose items+account, they "Punish" us by baning. Now as you said "3_Hit_U"...you should be able to share but at your own risk. Jagex should just support us by giving advices AND STATING "THAT IF YOU LOOSE YOUR ACCOUNT ITS YOUR OWNFAULT"

I understand what your saying about money perspective. But according to Jagex themself, they have the rule to protect people: But i don't see how this rule is protecting, if Jagex bans you for letting someone help you with something for one time. Cause: as they said themself it is to protect them from not losing your account. BUT BY BANNING YOU, JAGEX IS TAKING IT FROM YOU. So i don't see the difference.

I agree about that, but sharing it with other players on Runescape is something i am against. But i agree on part where you share it with people you really know, but unfortunately that's against rules so i don't do that -.- But then again, if Jagex allowed Account Sharing. I wouldn't advice anyone who i knew in game to do it. Cause you get scammed. So....not smart.

Hey, i wanted to discuss Account Sharing. First i wanna remind you of the rule: But please read well through the thread before you flame/or something. The rule goes also for Account Trading. On topic. I have thought of how Account Sharing is bad, and how it's good. For example, if you share a account with someone on the game who's a totally stranger or let's say eventually become best friends with is stupid. Why? Because you can never know...One day you might be logging in and your all robbed. Question 1: Would you say that someone you know in real life, goes on your account for "ONE TIME", to help you out be "Account Sharing"? Why and why not? I would say myself that no this is not Account Sharing. You can just listen to the words meaning "Account Sharing": Which means that you and another player share a account for a good while. But going on someone's Account or letting someone go on your account for a "One-Time" thing to help you out isn't. Cause you wouldn't let that player go on your account again, unless given permission. Cause if the player plays on your account again, and again and again for short periods. Then that my friend is Account Sharing. But still i think Jagex would ban players who has let someone be on their account for a short while/one time. I find the rule very disturbing: There is a huge difference between long terms where two players are sharing same account, and the other: were a player plays a others account rarely just to help the real owner of the account. Now heres the thing you might think: Scamming, alot players try to trick others to give their details so they can go on the account and robb it. Then i am guessing your thinking "Your saying thats right SirHemen...". Ill say that, that's not what i mean. The One time/Rare time a player goes on a other persons account to help the real owner: is and should be between two players who know eachother in real life. That's what i am saying is not "Account Sharing", cause both parts are not after scamming or playing each others. They are ONLY there to help the part out, and after that GET THEIR AS OUT of the account :mrgreen: Question 2: Are you for or against Account Sharing? As stated i am against it. But to certain grade. Anyhow i wanna end this by saying that Jagex should someone work a system out so that players who don't account share don't get banned for something that they haven't done. Cause it's easy to ban someone: But you gotta think "Has this player who's based on Jagex "Account shared", shared his/her account for a good while or was it just one time..." Question 3: You think Jagex should think about this or not? That was all. Go ahead and discuss ;)

I agree, it would be more exciting to be surprised. As for how bosses should be, i wish they could respawn at any location in Runescape...

We are just discussing the features of the game, is that so bad? #-o