Dire_Wolf

I vote a sub forum because it¨s more fun to read topics relating to Botting that interests you.

That's a nice one :thumbup:

The poll is about what's your motive for obtaining the cape. Sounds like you like completeting stuff. So i would suggest you vote that if you haven't already.

What requirements are you talking about? My suggested requirement for a cape with Comp's stats? And i fail to see how it would be overpowered? Combat lovers are being disadvantaged because every item or monster relating to combat always have requirements for skills that you don't want to do. You shouldn't play Runescape to do something you dislike. However, i realize that to get monster spots or combat items i often have to do Quests and Diary tasks and similar stuff. And Combat players shouldn't say anything much about those kind of requirements...but to complete 90% of the game only for best cape with stats is beyond what you should do. It should be given to all players with 99 in all combat skills (99 slayer included) and 120 Dungeoneering. Those requirements itself are very hard. And if you begin playing Runescape from scratch it will take you a loooooooooooooooooong time. It will even take for me a long time, to reach 120 Dungeoneering. And this is just me hyptoethcial speaking (excuse my spelling); Ok, Combat lovers must accept that they will never obtain Comp cape for it's stats. What then? Will Jagex release new capes that will be better? Or will Jagex restrict the future capes stats to be less than Comp? (Stats wise only, no cape with a twist). I understand that Runescape works in the way that you have to still do skills you don't like to obtain combat items or monster spots. But to complete 90% of the game just because i want the STATS only of a cape? Man...Disappointed to see that i am only one who has this perspective about the stats of Comp cape. :-# P.S I stopped playing a while, and the way Jagex is going i don't think i will be in future either. I guess only thing interesting left in Runescape to me is Zaros storyline :shades: (Youtube Quest guide lol).

Tell me how is 120 Dungeoneering and 99 in all combat skills any simple task? It probably takes 5 months or more to achieve these requirements. HOW IS THIS SIMPLE? And yes it has amazing perks for both combat and skillers, but that does not mean it should be that way. Combat players shouldn't have to do skills they don't like just to get the "perks" . And no it's not outrageously difficult for both party. Skillers focus on all skills and have set it as goal to get all skills to 99. Where as a Combat player only wants to get 99/120 in combat skills. So a combat player has no plans of leveling skills not directly necessary for Combat.

+10 attack bonus, +13 prayer bonus, +12 defence bonus and 4.5 Strength bonus and also works as Ava's acumaltor. How is it barely better than fire cape? And i find it frustrating why people can't understand why a Combat player who likes some skills, have to finish the whole freaking game just to access a item that in first place you should access without INHUMAN requirements. How is 120 dungeoneering, 99 in all combat skills not a proof that you have mastered all combat arts? And the toughest bosses in Runescape are bosses, you think a Combat player haven't fought them? Also i don't think combining a non-combat skill cape and Combat cape is a good idea. So if it should give Skilling boosts is your view on it, not mine. This is second time you mention it. I am not interested in discussing skilling boosts.

But you do realize that that this cape being a reward to people who have completed the game limits future cape updates with stats? Because if i was Jagex i would think "We can't make future capes better than Comp cape". Which then limits combat capes updates for players who likes combat. And players who like to "Complete" stuff will often be the players who will have Comp cape. And for being the best cape in Runescape (Stat wise), it's not a small reward. The whole point is that it's hard to access? Then why does it have to be the best stat cape in game? And how is 120 Dungeoneering, 99 in all combat skills not enough requirement for the best COMBAT cape in game? Again i don't get why a reward for Completionist players have to be the best combat cape in the game. It's fair that every item related to Combat should require high levels from the respective skills of combat. It's fine with some low level non-combat requirements. But beyond that is just a bad thing.

Yes, i realize that. I just think that finishing most stuff in Runescape only for a item with combat stats is a bad thing. People hope to get new capes, swords, shields, platebodies etc. That you have to do all that for Untrimmed Comp cape is just...stupid. If you want to reward people who do all that stuff, don't reward them through combat stats. Because by doing so your limiting the acess to this cape for many combat players. And don't get confused, the cape should still take time, but not as much as it does currently.

I think "Completionist" or "Completionist players" are just crap. Why? Because even a Comp players has something they like doing more than other things. + Completeing a game is alot more than just finish stuff related to this cape. If your a Completionist players, then you have plans to finish EVERY aspect of the game. There can't be "I like to finish only the ones related to Cape". Because a True completionist would finish everything the game has to offer. And i mean everything. So with that said, people started to set goals to finish most things Runescape had to offer because of this cape. Before it i don't think they thought "I want to finish the game". Perhaps "I want to get 99 in all skills + 120 dung", but not other stuff that they didn't find "interesting". I added the option though.

Thanks for your input, but i need statistics :thumbup:

If you play Runescape alot in F2P, and have a irl job then 100% yes! You get alot more items to use and monsters to kill. Doing Quests and Skill leveling will be faster in P2P. Saving you loads time. Then you can use the extra time IRL instead of "Slow F2P" game.

Much cash do you earn per hour at Cockraoch soldiers?

Vote on poll. No discussion.

I wish it has 0 stats. And i don't think most players go for the cape for it's looks, but for it's stats.

People generally work hard to obtain achievements. But getting 99 in all skills, 120 dungeoneering and LOADS more stuff, only to receive a stats combined cape of Fire cape, Soul wars cape, Ardougne cloak etc is just STUPID. You're not forced to do anything. There are so few people who can wear a cape that it will never be a requirement for high-end competition. Many players want the cape for it's stats. They don't want to finish the game. They want to do the skills and activities they love, not ones that Jagex force them to do for a item or a monster spot. Noone is forced to do what you have to do for Comp cape, but you know what: It's part of content and should be accessable to many players. It should not be easy to obtain, but it should not require you to finish whole game to get it. That's just [developmentally delayed]ed.

Double post. Delete please.

The suggestion has been changed to apply to only battleaxes and longswords.

What makes it only a bit better? It's a good suggestion, I'm just not thrilled with the state of combat in general, for completely unrelated reasons :-P Once the game gets balanced a bit more it'll be nice. Fair enough :shades:

What makes it only a bit better?

Then it will not apply for thrown weapons, whips and rapiers and similar weapons. Then it could be applied to longswords and battleaxes. I thought of same thing too myself. That using a Whip with one hand would give same outcome, but i thought "Maybe Jagex might ignore the logic". Because afterall not everything in the game is based on logic. Anyhow i will change the suggestion so that it applies to weapons like Dragon battleaxe and Longswords. And not whip, rapier or thrown weapons. Sounds good?

How so?

It doesn't have to apply for Darts. And it can be debated. I thought of suggesting bonus damage but that would probably cause to much impact on other weapons. For example if you gave extra bonus damage to whip, Dragon battle axe and weapons like that it would be to overpowered. Whip has better speed than Godsword and is "equal" to Godsword in killing Bandos boss. Imagine whip with bonus damage. (I killed 4 General Graardor with Whip + Godsword). Extra speed makes great sense: you don't need defense or extra attack bonus at many monsters. It would be very neat for Slayer.

My suggestion is that instead of wielding a shield you could sacrifice it and wield a particular one-handed weapon with two hands and receive increase in damage with that particular weapon. Example, Wielding a Dragon battleaxe with two hands will then make you hit extra damage. The increase of damage should only apply for weapons that will be smart to use with two hands. For example it would not apply for ranged thrown weapons, Chaotic rapier nor Abyssal whip. If you have a suggestion for how much the damage increase can be please suggest! WHAT WEAPONS IT WOULD APPLY FOR? Battleaxes Longswords

8 minutes? :shock:

Some monsters drop list shows that rare drops from newly updated "Rare drop table" is not listed as possible drop. One of them is Spiritual warriors. Is this true or has the drop list just not been updated? (Runescape wiki)