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^ probably a keylogger. jk. ROTM is a great new quest, you can train farming now through a minigame that uses lunar magic (forgot the name) but it makes farming a grindable skill now. New barrows brother (after doing rotm). and yeah bots are everywhere :/

Lol :P

Id rather have a handful of regular players botting xp than the masses of rwt bots all over. Oh, and thought youd enjoy this mere lol

I didnt leave :P I just went back into hiding.

Thanks for seeing my logic on things :) If you have high end gear, USE it to make MORE money for ovls or turm. Selling it would only hurt you.

You people are silly. I said not everything dropped would be untradeable, but i seriously think some of the highend gear should be untradeable. The best gear ingame shouldnt be buyable, you should have to work for it. Either questing, minigames or even (yes really) fighting monsters. I dont see the problem since every other mmorpg does that and its worked out perfectly for them. VP you ignored to read the post clearly because i made several ways of making things untradeable. Lets say bandos gear adopts the new theory of becoming untradeable as soon as you equip it; -You go to bandos -You kill bandos -He drops a BCP -You pick it up, and can either SELL it or EQUIP it. -If you sell it to somebody and they put it on, it then becomes binded to that person. You can still make money boss hunting, its just that with the way things are now, more and more gear enter the game (as more are dropped by monsters) but NONE leave the game (aside from the very very very few that disapear after somebody dies and nobody loots it)

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What Mere is saying though isthat we shouldnt have to pay for convenience. I shouldnt have to use big bones to lvl prayer because its cheaper. There should be other ways to train all together other than grinding. Its to get rid of bots and rwt remember.

<3 looks beautiful do me a favor and take the black lines out of the dragon and the mountain though. itll look alot better if you outline the dragon with a darker shade of that blueish color instead of black. whats with you and your hidden artistic talent?

I forgive you ALG

I looked up smelting bots because all this nonsense about an npc making bots not use edge made me want to cut my wrists. Now please, pull your heads out of your asses :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

Put it in your main post brah

HOW TO REMOVE SPAM BOTS: after saying the same thing 3 times in under a minute it would say "Youve already said that! wait 5 minutes!" and it would punish you for spaming by muting you for 5 minutes. They do it in other games and it works wondersw

<---- I made it. just saying. :)

[hide=Ring World's Comment] [/hide] Sad but true;Although you usually say things derogatorily, you're almost always spot on. Simply BANNING bots isnt going to solve the issue. Firstly because as a company, its almost idiotic to remove that kind of paycheck from their monthly-membership revenues. Secondly, because for every bot you ban, theres almost always 2 taking its place. Theres a better solution to removing bots and it involves removing the incentives to bot. Theres a suggestions thread about this very subject; This should help Jagex beat bots

How so? In my situation, the buyer wins by selling the item for profit and the seller wins by gaining the gear. The gear is still valued highly, its just not tradeable anymore. Picture this; Yew logs dont change price much because they come in and out constantly. One guys cutting it and the others burning/fletching them. Gear doesnt ever go out of RS (I dare you to alch 1000 bandos chest plates, right?) Therefore the prices will only ever go down. Its supply and demand. If you draw a supply/demand curve; As the quantity of an item increases, the price decreases. IF there were only 5 whips in the whole game, wed be paying 100bil each. but because theres constantly more whips coming into the game every HOUR, prices continue to fall. Look at barrows, they made a barrows bot and before you know it the prices are dropping. Or frost bones, before, the supply of frost bones produced by legit players killing dragons was EQUAL to the demand needed from players that used them for prayer. THEN Bots came in and INCREASED the supply which meant there were MORE bones in the market than the players who were training prayer needed.Therefore, you couldnt sell the bones for 20k each, then you had to sell for 19k ea, then 18k ea, then before you know it youre trading them for 10k each. By making some things untradeable once you equip it, you take one out every time you put one in. Of course, you could still alch it for its alching price once you dont need it anymore (say you want to upgrade from addy to rune, you alch your addy and go buy rune).

Mere in the case of bandos my theory would work like this; hypothetical; *Bandos gear is now untradeable when you EQUIP it* -You go to bandos gwd as usual -You get a BCP as a drop -You can go sell it on the ge for profit OR equip it. -BUT once you equip it, its untradeable. That way people arent constantly buying and selling gear. That way the gear is pulled OUT of the economy as fast as it was brought in. Have you noticed how as time goes on, rare gear drops decline in price? Thats because the supply is constantly getting larger. IF you had to keep it as soon as you put it on, it would take it out of circulation and thus, would keep the prices up.

I support; My own ideas to STOP botting; Untradeable Items; Become Untradeable as soon as you pick it up; -If you kill a monster in a group or by yourself, have the item become untradeable as soon as you pick it up. This would allow you to let anybody in the team have it (you would decide who should get the drop) and then once they pick it up its theirs to keep and they'll NEVER be able to trade it. Become Untradeable as soon as you equip it: -Say you buy a new Sword from the GE. Once you equip that sword its untradeable. Think of it like binding gear in a Dungeoneering floor; you can pick it up, trade it, sell it to the smuggler but once you EQUIP (bind) that item is yours forever. Become Untradeable as soon as you get it as a drop; -Think Effigys or slayer monster heads. When you get those as a drop, nobody else can see it to pick it up- It yours and only yours. What you CAN do with this item however is sell it to a store for gold but you CANNOT sell it on the ge or to any other players. That way you can pick it up, use it or sell it for profit, but it cannot be given to anybody else. **This wouldnt mean all items would now be untradeable! This just means that some items (usually bigger drops) would fall under one of these categories. That way youre not buying high lvl gear for 500m and instead youre actually fighting the monster that drops it.** Minigame Untradeable Gear; -Void armor is a perfect example of this (and chaotics if youre like me and convinced DG is a minigame :P). Rewarding a player for working hard at a minigame is a great example of making the playerbase PLAY for their gear rather than GRIND gold for their gear. Quest Untradeable Gear; -Barrows gloves is something we already have from quests and I LOVED working for them. Its a great experience doing a quest to get gear rather than mining coal for 6 hours to get enough money for gear (back when I had to worry about gear, mining coal was actually a pretty profitable thing to grind). Daily Activities: Daily Quests; -Have mini-quests you can do every day to gain a lot of xp and/or supplies/gold. This would give people a reason to login every day to complete all of the miniquests they can for the day and would mean LESS GRINDING (Think Penguin points). There ISNT a bot for that (to my knowledge). Adding more things like that would DECREASE the grinding amount to lvl hence DECREASING the desire to bot. Bounties; -Have daily bounties where you can go defeat a monster and get gold/supplies/gear. Bork would be a decent example. The thing that needs to be done is that they need to be more rewarding that grinding. At the moment, grinding is still better xp than the distractions and diversions and other things Jagex has implemented. Creating ways to train skill that don't cost a lot of money Minigames; -Minigames are already a part of RS, but perhaps more could be done to encourage doing these activities instead of grinding. 1)Make the rewards bigger 2)Create more "chargeable items" (like the one from BA that helps with Agility) that gives you an XP boost while you use it. 3)By doing daily quests you could be given supplies to train skills which would mean FREE xp (sort of free)

Harry died :shock:

Its cause he a no lifing little boy whos not going to see harry potter tonight :lol:

I would like to point out I donated 1,000,000 gee pees to this cause. :P

should cost 40-50m i think

Gah I need one lol. which do you have and how much did it run you :P

Were these done on a tablet? just wondering :)