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The main problem with new f2p players beeing started in p2p, and this ranking, is that it is very likely none are to be expected to make it into this list, at least thats my view. The main idea behind this is, that without hiscores any new player will have much less motivation to go for what we call a high total level and will have much less idea of other f2p players that are in the game, as that person cannot look any of us up. And secondly even if they have motivation enough, the requirements for the top 250 are getting so high, that that will take ages for them. In that last case it is less likely for them to even make it in the list. And many of the top f2p have gone to p2p or quitted, making the active community much smaller. This will result in less encouragment for new players also. This sounds very discouraging, but that is what it is, due to both hiscores removal and the fact that they already start out as p2p.

Its really awesome to get notified of this initiative! Im definately interested and i will soon post my screen and ill try to help. Ill make a post about this in the living legends forum, a dutch pure f2p clan, which will hopefully help to get more players knowing about this and make the list bigger and the more accurate. Ive not seen the pictures section yet, but i have 100(0)s of those, i'm sure i can add some nice ones!

Thanks Isthat ok for maintaining the list up to now. Thanks everyone for creating the last rememberance of F2p and Isthat for compiling it. I've made up my mind and will definately play less or maybe even quit from now on, this was the final day for many of us, darkest day in RS history. I wish Jamflex would do anything to make sure we are visible, either by players with a 99, who logged in in the last period of time, or who have been searched by multiple other players. Maybe even make a F2p pure list. Those are ideas floating around, which jamflex obviously tries not to consider. For now I'll stay spamming the forums too. Hope that there is a way to extract the data for the list any other way then hiscores, to get the list still going. If that is impossible, maybe let everybody enter their own stats. That last method might be sensitive to fraud but I don't see much other possibilities.

well done water on that prayer record, i had 1050k, but i never knew if it had been the f2p record :( 73k per hour means quite much possible :)

Thanks for the policy, Isthat, I will read it right now! Good job :D

Almost at end, sorry this is a long post and mostly just my thought making it a bit messy :) --- Updates done to make skills faster such as the make - x for cooking have been implemented over the years many times. Most are to my disagreement. I never had cook-x, most easy skill.. might not even need it to at least have a decent toughness to it. However its long ingame, and most of us will not ever have used it. craft-x was unneccesary as well, i liked it without. Same for the tiara-make-x. And we still dont know but prayer might get it too some day. We also got to take into account updates as gop,fog stronhold, which hold major changes for multiple skills, made many many things much easier. And ofcourse those small things like the mentioned noter on the island, but also the much faster mage speed implemented about a year ago(actually not small at all if u are a fast heater) and alchs that now can be done at the same time of literally everything. The grand exchange made the game too simple realy. Before that, i mined, smithed in furnace and smithed on anvil to later alch, now bars are avaible always in large numbers. Alch supplys, i previously ordered via forums ( which we couldnt post at, and therefore i contacted every person that sold stuff by pm ( which he had to be online at)). And merchanting is easy, u can use all items all the time now :o rc is a weird skill btw: air running was hard (5kph) then opening came which the first about 10 99 rc of f2p used, i seen artemk2005 using it too btw, only mendark didnt. Opening was the fastest rc for us. After it assisting, pretty fast but slowed down gradually during the years, in the end sometimes not even runners. Tiaras too costy, but became cheap these days, so will be fastest for now. And gop/fog dont make rc faster, just a different way. If i would compare rc old and new: rc old = opening = faster than now = tiara runnin, also more expensive prayer = x2 speed. (money value before free trade limit came, and after it) mining speed decreased btw when the 3th ore in kharid mine was removed ;) later it increased when dung bank came in dwarven mine. Conclusion: Every 99 is easier, by far, some realy a lot, such as pray speed, heating speed, other like ranged and fishing almost nothing(unless u take fish gloves into account). But money is easier, thus so are these skills, as they require less time to get the money. Therefore the value of a 99 is decreasing. The stupid thing; we can't see when the 99 was obtained and thus how easy it was for that player. I prefer skills as they were, 1 speed, to have exp have equal value always, and to give every player the same time nessesary to complete a certain goal. Since most player actually do, jagex has been very ignorant to us. Some do benefit us though, such as exchange, it just made gamepley better to be honest. Others do totally not, such as urns, and therefore i refuse using them, as they have totally nothing to do with the skills they are beeing used for.

Thanks setel, for your accurate explanation. I believe you, and hope that you receive ur acc back undamaged. If neccesary, we could make a forum topic about this? You could add this explanation? If jagex reads your story, im sure they will unban you.

It has come to my attention, and to those of others, that setelima is banned, and by the rules now, should be removed from the list. Thereby I want to add that this is totally against anything I have ever expected, as setelima has been a good rs friend for me and been an example for me as well. I cannot imagine however that he has ever used a bot. If anyone knows more about this issue, i would gladly hear that. If setelims contacts any of us, please let it know. I read last page about the deletion of certain players when proved botting, currently the most straightforward evidence is the back-roll of usually multiple stats and/or the fully banned of the runescape hiscores. For the setelima part, If jagex would somehow unban setelima without stats backroll, would this still imply a permanent ban from the top 250 list, as it could be caused by anything else than macroing? ... I imply a jagex mistake, how unlikely this may sound, for me it sounds more likely than setelima ever cheating. For me it would be tempting to add a small detail regarding the agility levels of 4 players known in the top 250 who could maybe be rolled back to agi 1, and hopefully this is an allowable backroll, if it ever happens :P Thanks for reading. Happy f2ping

Great to see verie bad posting! Hope you doing fine verie, i still never forget you, you were a f2p icon for me. I never met mendark, and maybe seen galaxyg once, frankz i met few times. These players are respected in the f2p community, but dont forget those players that are now on top of the list, ( s dia, el popo, water), Those 3, and many others, for example pietha, are very very determined too, and well, their stats are ofcourse incredible. I think all of the top 250 are respectable though, the determination needed to enter the list is very high.

it is no door, its a whole room. Its the room where if you enter, on the right side you see some fence of steel, to the left a door which u have to open from the other side. The objective where you can get xp from, is if you have the right agility level and you click on the fence so you squeze through that, thereby gaining agility xp. Now i think of it, we also have more rooms we cannot complete, like catching the ferret, where you need hunter for. So i think if a member does that near us, we will get hunter too= (

hey guys I was hit by the glitch of agility xp in f2p. I feel still terrible, cause this ruins a nice stats list. We, me and gereed, are pmods and tried to contact jagex about it asap, but after multiple messages they still keep saying they cant rollback individual accounts. Ofcourse i don't belive that, because im quite sure they can change/edit accounts and their databases if they realy need to. I hope we can convince them that they have to do that in this case. If they wont do this, they realy show they dont care about f2p or their loyal players, which they said this year that they did. the fact that that agility room is open in non members was weird already, secondly it shouldnt have been possible to do the agility thing in f2p. This is jagex fault, not ours, and we didnt do it intentionally. They also can check that we have not been p2p, so these facts i hope help to solve this problem. I am very glad me and gereed, pilot, and maybe others are kept on the list though! i would feel miserable to be deleted from that list after 2.5 years in it.

Hey a friend of me wants to join the list. His name is: P O T H Total atm: 1344 Thanks =)

its not the arena that needs to change back, but the hiscores, the hiscores r ruined.

about the f2p fall of eventually, why isnt there a f2p hiscore, for all the f2p ppl :)

hey kaizer, u too on this forum :) Glaozed looks f2p lol How u can c ur account details on membership in the past?