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self explainatory. a reason why would be appriciated :mrgreen: ~penguin

Absolute perfection. =D> This should be in the debate section. And if money is an issue (which it is for 97% of us) then we are all buying a DFS when it hits rock bottom unless the drop percentage is high on the new stuff and they fall to a reasonable price. ~penguin

My guess is yes, they have no restrictions like the changing properties of the DFS or degrading.

this proves it. most tip.it ers are stupid.. Are you saying that the "average damage" you take is directly between the max damage you will take and zero? I really don't think this is the case...When I'm at GWD I can take 30s from bandos when I'm tanking, but that doesn't mean that on average, each attack does 15 damage to me (including minions and everything). You take way more low numbers and zeros from the minis than you do their high 20s. This gets even more clear when you go to DKs. The spins hit tons of zeros for minutes then score a 8 out of nowhere. Calling the "average hit" the midpoint between zero and the max hit is definitely wrong in most situations. Also, it depends on whether or not there is a chance that the prevention effect can be "applied" to zero hits Just curious how you're getting your number, as that would be a lot more helpful to post than just a blatant insult at our intelligence without any numbers or calculations to back your words up. Anyone can just say that the other person is an idiot and not give a reason. [/hide] Are you serious? Do i really have to explain maths to you? Where did i state that average is half way between the max and the minimum? It blocks damage 70% of the time, and when it does, the damage inflicted is reduced by 25%. Did you ever study maths? This is simple probability, 25% damage reduction is dependant on the damage reduction activating It activates 70% of the time, therefore, on average, 17.5% of damage would be avoided. It's simply one probability multiplied by another, if you cannot grasp that then don't even try argue a point.. You cannot claim a formula by just picking a few numbers out of your head and saying LOOK!! its closer to 7!! That provides no proof, that's fools math. Here, i'll pick some random numbers for you, 5 , 5 , 5 , 5 , 5 Now prove they weren't random. You can't. If your going to come here with a fools attitude of trying to prove me wrong then you have failed miserably. I agree with you, i understood the 17.5% the first time... Let's just all be friends and agree the new shields own :

I predict it going to 8-10 but i'm just hoping :mrgreen: and I believe the spectral is gonna be widely overlooked, epic win at castle wars or certain slayer tasks.(spectres respectively) i do have to say though, where's the ranger shield? mage got a +20 boost with the arcane? Where's my +20 boost with rune c bow =\ ~penguin Do you REALLY think range is more deserving of new equipment than mage? Ever since the crossbow and bolt revamp, mage has been the weakest of the 3 combat styles. I'm pretty sure the last major thing we got was a new batch of Lunar spells. Mages desperately needed some more equipment. Very true. Sorry i just love range =]

I predict it going to 8-10 but i'm just hoping :mrgreen: and I believe the spectral is gonna be widely overlooked, epic win at castle wars or certain slayer tasks.(spectres respectively) i do have to say though, where's the ranger shield? mage got a +20 boost with the arcane? Where's my +20 boost with rune c bow =\ ~penguin

No? The DFS fell 900k between yesterday and today. I sold mine yesterday and plan to buy it back when it settles.

Does this overall mean the price of a DFS is gonna tank soon? I can't really decide but i don't want my 20m investment tanking to 8m =\ anyone wanna buy a DFS? :mrgreen:

yea i was thinking about the new gear from that update as well. Thanks ~Penguin

I believe most of us are aware of the new quest, Spirit's End, and the reward that follows, a spirit shield. I might actually do this quest (and i never quest.) Anyway, i happen to have recently (month ago?) purchased a dfs. It's dropped 2.5m since then and i have a horrible feeling i'll see it fall to 10m or lower in the next week because of the update. Advise? Sell? Keep? :? ~penguin

anyone else super angry about this :wall: :wall: :wall: i just bought my dfs for 20m and it's at 17.5m now which is already bad, plus this is gonna nerf the dfs to like nothing. i think i'll sell it really soon but i love it =\

i think a lot of you missed something, the d full or 3rd age. now yes some things are more rare than that but those are by far the rarest drops. and 3rd age is pretty much obsolete since barrows/gwd items/dfs. remember it's rarest item not achievement.

nice lol :thumbup: but yea i have found friends in my high school that play but they all quit eventually. Runescape is looked down upon. Fact. It's slowly getting better in the public's eyes, but it has a long way to go. O and my family is a whole different story. :wall: ~penguin

What woman? hahah nice =D>

Well let's see. -They are advertising at gaming conventions and exploiting RSHD heavily. Basically they're advertising to those who want to listen. My YOUNGER brother makes fun of me for playing runescape. I honestly don't care that much about him, but (completely honestly) i do worry about my friends finding out. I don't advertise at all unless i'm certain they play as well. But enough about that, -Word of mouth is literally free (even big companies smile at that) -There is no shortage of new players -until word of mouth becomes insufficent, it will be the primary source of new revenue. -Lastly, Java is still new (I bet some of you didn't know that) and it's incredibly difficult to code small graphics. Until Jagex can produce a STRONG graphics engine, (I give all the credit in the world to Jagex for doing what they have with Java code) and i mean WoW strong, they will have a tough time converting the consumers vision of RS being a low def point and click. ~penguin (that all probably sounds a little hypocritical :mrgreen: )