Slyfoxuk

I'm in a pretty similar boat coming back after a long absence too so not an authority on this topic at all. I think it depends a lot on whether you are happy to spend time really focussing on the game or not. By which I mean that I personally like doing some extended periods of watching tv/sport and only half paying attention to the game. So for me I've been doing Aviansies in GWD. I don't think it's the best method around but it's allowing me to train up my defence and get money without too much effort. I'd probably say I'm making around 650-700k an hour which isn't loads but I can basically stay there for as long as needed.

Sadly Jagex seem to have gone down the route of "Someone is making money out of trading, so we may as well make some like that too!" I actually like aspects of the wheel - but thats mostly for the xp lamps which are a nice treat and don't rightly make much difference. In terms of beating it though, my understanding is that the spins are predetermined and should simply be considered an animation. I've seen suggestions of waiting certain time periods for certain slots but this looks to be nonsense/wishful thinking.

Have made a significant change to op with update on progress :)

To ever so slightly hyjack this thread (apologies), are charming imps considered worthwhile/necessary?

Belated thanks for advice - looks like an easy decision.

Absolutely agree with above post. I use Crystal bow and it's perfectly good. It may not be the best but it's still fast enough and likely to easily make back cash from alching drops.

Apologies if this is thick but I m trying to get my head around what chaotics to get/use and why. I'm looking at melee at this stage as it's my preferred option and ranged is ok for now (I won't be using mage much so that can be ignored for now). Basically I've seen suggestions of rapier and claw before but don't really know what I should be getting. I was planning to get dual claws originally (thinking it'd be quicker to get the main hand with only 100k tokens) but then remembered I'd need 80 dungeon anyway so would be on 200k regardless. Simply - rapier or claw (dual), and if possible, why?

Yeh sadly I died with barrows gear which then went to 0 on everything. Mildly annoying

Bump. See adjusted op :) thanks

Don't worry Cerri - I play the game for my own amusement and have no where near the time or desire to reach it! 70 smithing done

60 summoning :)

Hunter is on the cards at some point but simply because I have so much to improve, it ranks really low on my targets.

Whilst I don't quite agree with the way tieszen phrased his message - the content is pretty accurate. I range Greaters with a crystal bow and take a shield to use rejuvenate's heal and I use no food. Granted my range level is a touch higher but this would be a good chance to improve yours. EoC is much different (as I have discovered after coming back not long ago) and you really do need to tailor the way you attack things as is appropriate. Melee is straight up terrible against some things, and then you try range/mage and they just die instantly.

Mini update on what I've been getting up to: Farming 30 -> 44 Defense 94 -> 96 Slayer 75 -> 79 Still chasing the slayer and Defense targets mostly with farming in between. Some other level changes too but these are the main ones. Quests: Fairy Tale Part 1

So I came back recently having literally never tried this skill - have now but am only level 15. I'd quite like to get it more of a try purely to get chaotics. Having said this, my other skill stats are fairly average in a lot of areas. Are there any must have levels in certain skills or is it possible to suceed without them?

Bump updated with newer stats and information.

Thanks. Always liked defence more, especially when everyone else became obsessed with strength. Will definitely be doing quests in future, so I'll add that as a section. I genuinely don't think I will. I would just find it too dull working so hard to get high levels in skills that don't need it. With some I'll definitely max them but a fair few I won't.

Hello, Having just come back to the game again, having played off and on since around 2004, I've decided to put together a blog to try and seriously motivate myself to complete some goals. I'd like to note now that full completion is something I simply won't target for all skills - for me there is no real benefit in obtaining 99 in a skill if it doesn't serve a purpose! Stats: Taken on 24.05.2013 Up to date stats: Stat changes on 13th June from starting point: No change (0 levels) Minimal change (1-5 levels) Significant change (5-10 levels) Exceptional change (11 levels+) Attack: 82 -> 82 Strength: 81 -> 81 Defense: 94 -> 96 Constituition: 90 -> 91 Range: 86 -> 86 Prayer: 56 -> 56 Magic: 65-> 66 Summoning: 52 -> 60 Dungeoneering: 15 -> 73 Slayer: 75 -> 79 Mining: 65 -> 66 Smithing: 37 -> 70 Crafting: 56 -> 56 Woodcutting: 75 -> 75 Fletching: 78 -> 79 Firemaking: 50 -> 50 Fishing: 73 -> 74 Cooking: 57 -> 58 Farming: 30 -> 48 Herblore: 49 -> 52 Construction: 32 -> 50 Agility: 52 -> 53 Hunter: 8 -> 8 Overall: 1420 -> 1576 Quests completed: Personal opinions on difficulty and length: Easy Medium Hard Extremely hard Fairy Tale Part 1 Songs from the Depths Significant items acquired: Full bandos

Thanks for the insight. I've got a godsword knocking around and certainly don't have a high power single hander so I'll try both and see what's what.

@Oli Thanks for that., against all odds I did know but it was rather safe to assume I wouldnt. I've really not had a chance to explore/obtain better items like those anyway! (see my lack of dung level as example - I only tried for first time yesterday. @bailey Cheers for info. Initially I will simply try melee with a 1h and shield to get a feel for fighting her. Ultimately I will need to vastly improve a lot of skills before seriously fighting her often. It'd just be nice to know that I can and also know that I can get the royal c'bow when I've upped a few stats.

Cheers for clarifying that. This is what I was actually worried about but having checked a few vids etc realised this was the case. Reckon I'll just go for it with melee and see how I get on. Only way you can really learn with these things.

Cheers - I'm planning to sort the summoning tonight so that's no problem. Smithing is mildly more tedious but I can afford to improve that too.

Bump edit. Finally got to level 60 summ and 70 smith and tried this with both aby whip/dfs and gs - both with normal antifire. Cant do with gs as I just got smashed, did better with whip and dfs but as expected the dps was far too low. I'm looking at dungeoneering to get weapons and was planning to get main and off hand claws - would a chaotic claw with dfs be a good enough upgrade on the whip? (I'd be happy if it gets me to the 4 and a chance to sort my royal c'bow)

I've been playing the game on and off for a long time now - 5-6 years and my max level is still only 92 (granted I've been more off than on). I used to worry about that, money making and the fact I had no idea what I was doing. Now that I've been back for only a few weeks I've realised it's not all that hard. You just need to try things and see what you like. I've found slayer and aviansie killing enjoyable - even though it should be a bit of a drag. When trying things I previously thought to be too hard - I've happily discovered that they really aren't so hard. The important thing to remember on top of this all though is that you do need to put in some graft to get things in this game. I watch tv or listen to music when playing - especially when making money or slaying. Then I can focus for quests and harder monsters.

Thanks both - might be missing a trick here but why dont people just buy seeds, go and get them fixed up for 180k (or whatever) and sell them on? I mostly ask because I'm sure I m missing something with how it works! edit: When I thought about this for more than a few seconds I worked it out so please ignore! :D