Kiel

After upgrading to Win 8.1 My DGS stopped working. I used to be able to run it granted I didn't change HUDs. Now it doesn't want to capture even on Jagex presets. Am on Intel i7-3635qm, amd radeon 8870m/intel hd4000(14.4 amd drivers for radeon). Is there any way to fix that?

Well, assuming one extracts Port Sarim from the sentence, we are left with few random letters,amongst them 4 forming cave, cliff is a bit obvious. Maybe those caverns?

If it is that about whether to wake up or not then it may look like this. But Oracle is known to be giving some future hints - and Guthix can't decide whether he wakes up or not - he relies on certain group of druids to conduct a ritual awakening him should the world be in war again. The group is being slaughtered, as we can read in WGS KB article(at least I assume they are those druids). Therefore, I'd rather say no. But I started wondering about another thing... DKin are being shown after the Stone being stolen. But maybe it's just a red herring? Maybe they're waiting for Syzygy, just like Mahjarrat and Mother Mallum? MM waiting made me think it's just a source of energy. DKin:the power grows within me. The power resonates. Power of the space?

If every Arposandran could summon a demon with such a powerful army the city wouldn't stay hidden for that long. It must be something behind this although I have no idea what.. .Dragonkin are too unlikely... Although experiments with Anima Mundi... Another part of the Stone? Like Fist of Guthix, Tower of Life(read dialogues - Guthix left what helped him create life with such ease!!!) Devious Minds relic(yes I didn't believe it too; the scenes and dialogues show it was part of a bigger artifact. Some more show possibility of it being that one... ). It seems even elf in MA found the source, which could be another part. Seemed unlikely for me but especially Homunculus and Effigy's dialogues... or whatever was the human called...

Dragonkin back^^ it was for a reason before then! Don't remember now who found the skeleton at lvl 3 BH crater but pie for him=p Second Wildy Stronghold then?

He wouldn't find one; he is a God that brings life through death; it was his symbol. He wouldn't turn his symbols into something not important for him.

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I found on RSOF a reference to the Stone as the Hand of Zamorak; we know he had it in the 2nd/3rd Age, but maybe it would shed some more light? Anybody recalls meeting this name before?

Perhaps there was no reason for him to emerge. But now, we see the GWD re-activated, and Bandos getting stronger and angrier, and with the DragonKin and Mahjarrat all stirring to make their final moves, it may be the right time for Guthix to awaken. Guthix won't do anything with the Dragonkin, as htey have much of Stone's power. They even felt when it was removed from the hiding place. Then if he was so angry with the dustruction of the world he created that he wept, telll me why its destruction was not the reason? Was he so stupid? As said, above, Bandos won't come back - credits to Zanik here, check SC - he won't come back to risk another loss from the hands of mortals. Also, why would Mahjarrat make their final move? The real masters of stability seem to be the Dragonkin, as they had the Stone. They will have an epic role to play, Guthix won't do them much harm. Anyway, to be sure we have to see. Anybody can have some other theory. The Mahjarrat have to stir and move into position for their ritual. They have been at it for a while, now, and we should soon see their full exploits bear fruite. They have to move, if only for the reason that Lucien stole Stone. The DragonKin may indeed be masters of stability, but they serve the one who serves Jas. And btw, how does Jas fit in to this? How does Zaros? The destruction of the world may have been necessary to the future of Gielinor, which may be why Guthix sleeps in the first place - so as not to suffer worse while his beloved Gielinor is destoryed... Just a thought, though... I highly doubt so: he was the main guy who shaped it; why would it be necessary? Any source making him the ruler of time, having set it earlier? Ritual was only a side reason: Lucien wants to become a God, just like Zamorak did; it is confirmed by Movario, as well as Lucien. Wel, I have a strange theory about Jas, tho i doubt Zaros had any role there... At first we have to find out what was Zaros the God of. As to Jas, remember the hint Chaos Soahc Jas? Soahc = chaos backwards. So, he is probably a God of balance. Either he was an Elder or... well I said it's bizarre. But could fit: found the Stone, which itself created the world and made it his; used nickname to make it harder to discover. I said it's strange. but why would he not be one of the real masters of stability?

Perhaps there was no reason for him to emerge. But now, we see the GWD re-activated, and Bandos getting stronger and angrier, and with the DragonKin and Mahjarrat all stirring to make their final moves, it may be the right time for Guthix to awaken. Guthix won't do anything with the Dragonkin, as htey have much of Stone's power. They even felt when it was removed from the hiding place. Then if he was so angry with the dustruction of the world he created that he wept, telll me why its destruction was not the reason? Was he so stupid? As said, above, Bandos won't come back - credits to Zanik here, check SC - he won't come back to risk another loss from the hands of mortals. Also, why would Mahjarrat make their final move? The real masters of stability seem to be the Dragonkin, as they had the Stone. They will have an epic role to play, Guthix won't do them much harm. Anyway, to be sure we have to see. Anybody can have some other theory.

We know DIonysus was born; how would he do that if he was a God? Guthix was asleep is the 2nd, lasting into third, still not knowing about the GW. If he had been hiding amongst human, he would emerge much earlier.

Jas is believed to be one of the Elder Gods. However we know only that he is/was a person that enslaved the Dragonkin to protect his Stone. Also, Stone doesn't alter life around: Goblins changed because of living under surface, Dragonkin created dragons, only one of the Fremennik touched the Stone and he understood magic, it was their beliefs which caused them to separate. I'm not sure about destroying whole planet... Guthix only supplied his power with Stone's.

Do you think Lucien may lose the fight? He has godly powers, while Zemouregal failed to claim the Shield of Arrav, Hazeel is weak, Khazard Dead, Azzanadra somehow weakened, Akthanakos weakened by thousands of years, Enakhra has broken power. It is unlikely, however nice theory about His return. I used to follow Guthix since I got to know about Gods, however if Zaros proves not to be bad I may change this; His story is fascinating...

If one dies between Rituals, it doesn't make any difference: Lucien, Hazeel, Khazard already died. I think the only way of destroying a Mahjarrat is their Ritual, in which they face the void: death? So we must use the ritual to kill Lucien! It sort of fits, doesn't it? We somehow aid the other Mahjarrat in killing Lucien. When Zammy got Zaros's power he was just a warrior. Lucien was a insanely powerful mage, he got the Godstaff of Armadyl then got Stone of Jas which gave Zammy power to become a God and strengthened Guthix and Sara, and even without the power of God himself he is considered to have god-like power. Imagine if he gets more power from the Ritual and then attacks Zamorak... We have to kill him! Jhallan, Akthanakos and Azzanadra should help, as he supported the rebel, but after Lucien is sacrificed all Zamorakians are about to become stronger; We don't stand a chance :? he will die but others will cause us a big threat... One other thought: Anybody has transcript of what balance elemental says? I thought of one gnome, natural follower of Guthix, particularly skilled in magic and also in melee skills...

I think they will be some ways of completing it: we either killed Hazeel ot disturbed his resurrection. This one thing shall play some role here. Also, I'm getting curious: why are Zarosians, Azzanadra and Jhallan, described as not evil by Ali the Wise? Was Zaros the good guy? If one dies between Rituals, it doesn't make any difference: Lucien, Hazeel, Khazard already died. I think the only way of destroying a Mahjarrat is their Ritual, in which they face the void: death?

soul one won't be in Morytania - too close to blood. Every altar is in different part of the world, not counting very closely related body and mind. We've got elven and morytania ones - but there remains the desert, with uncovered caverns in Ullek, the first Gielinorian home of the Mahjarrat. Nobody ever said Ullek was the home of the Mahjarrat :? I meant desert was their home, with Ullek being close to cities worshipping Icthlarin, who brought them there. I still believe Soul Altar will appear here.

soul one won't be in Morytania - too close to blood. Every altar is in different part of the world, not counting very closely related body and mind. We've got elven and morytania ones - but there remains the desert, with uncovered caverns in Ullek, the first Gielinorian home of the Mahjarrat.

That is a good point, the altars are supposedly chunks of the Stone of Jas, or at least infused with its power. I hadn't considered that the presence he sensed was just the blood altar, and its a pretty big blow to the theory that the Dragonkin are directly related to Morytania. dang:/ hoped it was source of ivandis's power;) anyway, if altars are linked to it then we got Astral and Blood Altar; where else has he been? Location of Soul One, possibly? Note it is likely to appear this year as they release one per year;)

Hmmm... We wondered why were the researches in underground lab closed. Perhaps it was Stone of jas's presence which caused them to? If the Stone was there, it's very likely they found it, yet why would they be afraid of it I don't know... Some fear of Dragonkin?

Movario claims all the 3 things:Stone of Jas, Fist of Guthix and the Eye of Saradomin to be the same thing, found in WGS. So if a King is being adressed by slaves with His Majesty then whose higher majesty is it? It's clear You aren't English,it's plainly language thing. At least I hope so, I'm neither one ;)

About 2. If you read the main post, you will find that the Wildy fortress has allready been found. I know it's been found,as I wrote. But does it have to be their only Wildy fortress? Somebody already posted a picture of a Dragonkin skeleton in BH. And Movario refers to those known fortress as eastern Wilderness. I don't say it isn't, I say it's one of.

I don't think Pollnivneach Dungeon are connected to Dragonkin anyhow, Brimhaven Dungeon are more likely. But I got 2 other things: 1.KBD says"at each point sits a danger" Why should we limit ourselves to 4 points while on RS compass, as well as in Dragonkin symbol we got all 8? 2.Movario found one half of the Dragonkin key in some ruins in the easten Wilderness(his notes). Maybe their Strongholds are Ancient Cavern, Ruins in wildy, some other point like Bounty Hunter crater(one of their skeletons there) and some Stronghold in the North? This would link to Mahjarrat and to... ROMILY WEAKLAX!!! ;)

My thoughts are that this has already been posted, but I don't blame you since this thread contains 35 pages already. I think the most likely of things is that he is an Icyene, and even family of Queen Efaritay (Icyene queen). His last name is Hallow,as is revealed during one of Myreque quests. Efaritay, Queen, was "of Hallowed Name"(plaque in Burgh Myreque's base). 99% he is. Note tho I didn't notice his name, just read on some page ;) BTW how is it connected with Dragonkin? Kinda off-topic...

Remember Letters to the Chaos Elemental? "That's not where Bandos is"-nexxt quest in Yu'Biusk is about to come. Highly doubtful it'll be that tho... Jagex made WGS a bit faster for people who liked it and won't make any special 150. Look at WGS news: the longest,hardest quest with deepest storyline or sth like this...

While this is extremely likely to be true, its not proven. Almost nothing is known about the Elder Gods Once again, we can't say for sure. We'd like to think that Guthix shaped a barren plane, but its possible that he just created all over a pre-existing world, killing everything and starting anew. There are some holes in this theory, however, specifically that the Dragonkin and the TzHarr both existed before Guthix's arrival, and both are still alive today. As for the Stone's connection to Jas, nothing is known. Its unclear whether Jas got his power from the stone, much like Guthix, or if he supplied the Stone's power. Agree with the part about Jas. But Knowledge Base says he found an empty plane somewhere. And Dragonkin don't necessarily have to be from before the First Age.