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Except neither option is applicable, so discussing which is better is pointless. However, abortion of a child would necessarily gurantee he's not going to be a murderer. I'm not saying that as a suggestion to kill all babies if anyone took it that way, I'm saying that as a point to why one option would be better.

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I wouldn't be surprised if you told me you were 13 on the first pic. You do look 16-ish on the second though.

So, parents not capble to provide for their child, aren't mentally prepared, are underaged, single parents, or simply unwilling to raise a child, should just meet the consequences? Just not let abortion pass because it's "the easy way out"? Personally, I don't think I'd want to be born to parents whom never wanted me, and decided not to go for abortion for reasons I don't see as valid, such as not wanting to settle for "the easy way out"... Your argument doesn't hold much meat when it goes down to being rational about it.

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Meh. It's either you're ugly, or you're easy. Even if I didn't pull my top (which wasn't on purpose by the way...) I'd get this sort of comment... From someone. @Felix Even if that was a joke, that really (REALLY!) creeps me out....

I only read the first 2 pages or so, but I think the point I'm about to raise wasn't suggested before. The value of life. On the first page I think it was, someone said the child doesn't deserve death. Deserve? None of us were asked if we even wanted to live, not to mention live the life that were forced upon us (who are my parents, where do I live, next to whom, in which country, what's my family's economical condition and ability to raise the child, etc). Who said the child deserves life? (As a negative issue) That being said, I think the value of life is much lower than what most societies seem to suggest. A murderer would receive the same title whether he killed the head of a mafia organization, or an innocent man, and I think that's wrong down to it's root. You can never know if the child you just gave birth to will suffer a lot in his life, or make others suffer. At times you wouldn't know that even long after these events occured, if at all. The other day me and a friend discussed the value of life. He asked me if I think all who live are fit to live, or should even be given the right to. I said that I know my opinion probably isn't very popular, if at all, but I think that no, not everyone is deserving of life. Then he asked me if I'd think any less of him if he killed someone. I answered that I don't easily judge murderers, and only do so if I think their motives are corrupted, and that knowing my friend, if he would go as far as killing someone, i trust the person deserves it. I openly said I wouldn't think any less of him. What I didn't know, is that he was asking that question more seriously than one would think. He was actually asking for my approval on the actions he's planning. Apparently, he knows of a rapist that receives all sorts of benefits from the law, and basically, even if accused, nothing would really happen to him other than slight incomfort. The only 3 (now is 2) things that stopped and are currently stopping him from doing that, are the person having a family, and the misery he's guranteed to cause if he murders him, the very likely option that he'd get caught, and my approval. To tell you the truth, I know of 2 victims of his doings, and am certain this guy does not deserve to live. At all. I'd kill him myself if I could. Personaly, if my life were those of rediculous suffering, I'd never want to be born. What I'm saying here is, basically, that anyone thinking of abortion is not to be judged. They may not be ready to raise the child, they may understand that giving him/her birth is not something of good nature (because of the life the child is probably guranteed- a certain, very "unpleasant" road of life), they may not be able to provide for the child, and they simply may not want the child. The only case I'm undecided about, is late-abortion. The child could be born with problems despite the abortion, and pretty much gurantee beyond doubt a life of suffering. On the other hand, I think all I said up the posts applies here aswell. I'm still not sure.

I recall one atheist TIF user who said something along the lines of the problem being the upper tier of the church while much of the rest of it is more progressive... Of course that post was a year ago and the guy since left, so this may not be a credible paraphrasing of it. As for the pedophile thing: That sounds very interesting. May have to look it up to see if there are any English translations. :grin: I doubt it, 'cause it took me about 10 minutes finding a Hebrew version on YouTube. If you wish to look it up anyway, then it's a Talk Show with Avri Gilad. Good luck.

Thanks anyway Goon, it's the thought that counts ;)! 45.

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42 Which, according to the score, would mean we're better no-lifers :)! Yay!

This is getting annoying... It's a picture, I'll take photos the way I think is best :S...

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Nope, I'm pretty sure it's 45.

'Tis 45 methinks.

But then it's "fake" :). Unlike the side picture, which isn't, technically, fake.

But it makes my boobs appear bigger :thumbsup: ....

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Cure HIV! Yeah!

Like this one? [hide][/hide]

Can they measure specific diseases though? Lol at the article BTW...