Dragon weapons are from frenskrae is it a big leap to say that either the dragonkin are from there or can travel between planes? How about reading http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=770272? I think this topic shows that dragon weapons are not from Frenskrae. Perhaps Jas is like Guthix, and actually found the stone on an empty plane? For all we know, there is an infinite cycle of elder gods out there... possibly, or maybe the elder gods are realy the first beings on geilinor and there is no headache inducing cycle into it :lol: or perhaps zezima was the first being and thats how he had enough time to level his skills so massivly 8-) great theory no?