Substitute Bandos Plate with Addy Chain... It has pretty much been proven that a Fighter Torso is the equivalent to an addy chain (might of been plate but I am 99% sure it was the chain).. You are better off using Proselyte (or initiate if you don't have Pros) and praying +10% str. You will get better results that way than you would with a Torso. On another note, to get a slayer helm you will need a black mask in the first place as it is the main "ingredient" to create a slayer helm. And even if you only were doing 10 slayer tasks for the rest of your RS career, nothing compares to the black mask on slayer task's and the resell-ability of the black mask is such that you wouldn't lose any money when you finished your 10 tasks. In short, buy a black mask for slayer. I've had the cash, and still have the cash for full bandos, but i love my torags to death. The highest defense in the game, and it is 10m cheaper then a bandos plate. Atm, bandos is a waste of cash, that will probably be 1m in a year or two. If you either get Compfreak to come in here, or go search a forum talking about the Torso, and he will tell you how worthless Torso is compared to other, better, chest pieces to use instead. Imo, id rather, and in fact i am, use Torags Body and repair it when it gets to 25%. When i have the cash ill most likely get full bandos.