Retech

I am going with Doom's system of 1%. That is spending money that I do have. I thought this was supposed to be a simple game. (I meant isolationist in terms of economy, like closed economy) Nazi Germany had lots of flaws, so did the Soviet Union. It wasn't that economically progressive. You seem to be ignoring your own problems, so fix those before you focus on mine.

Jen tries to heal Umbra, before trying to trap the shade in solid ice with her ice staff.

Archi, it's just that I'm giving specific examples of why there wouldn't be a recession which perfectly fit the bill. I don't really care about my gold reserves, because you can't remove them anyways unless something specifically happens, which would cause everyone's gold to lose valu. I'm pretty sure most of the countries in the world are growing at 5% at this point, with Russia expanding at greater that rate (I believe, don't quote me on that). Infact, Switzerland should have such a small budget because all the drivers of economic growth are gone from there. Of course you're not going to moderate against your own country. Perhaps you should find some specific counterexamples like what I have done? Just because you think the economy will crash doesn't mean it does, especially in this game where we need precedent to do anything. I have precedent, where is yours? ------ EDIT: That reminds me, I have several precedents for why Switzerland should go down the toilet. Look at North Korea, East Germany, Paraguay, Iran, former Soviet bloc. All repressed by isolationist regimes in the past or the present, leading to an uncompetitive, sluggish economy.

Okay, here's my point. Let's assume Japan grows at 3-4% because it's not a very young economy, but everything is coming out of the recession. Then you account for South Korea, Indonesia, Yemen, Singapore, and the Phillipines, which are undeveloped economies and would be growing at 8-9% for a decade, because they are becoming developed economies (which is why unindustrialized countries grow so quickly, they didn't have too much before). Then after the decade is over, the people are wealthier and the industries are at their peak, so growth tapers off. Then you have 3% growth across the board. So you see, the only reason Japan's economy is expanding so fast is that the younger economies are expanding at such a fast pace, like China, and Japan is growing at its usual rate, which comes together at about 5% (the younger economy share becomes larger, thus making the percentage closer to it the larger it grows). Also noting that economics is not my strength, but I can back my argument with examples. I'll wait for examples that refer to something else except overproduction (which does not apply, at such a low growth rate). I know that you say that your "argument" isn't an argument, but you're still arguing about whether anything is going to happen. So please find one or two examples in history and then I'll accept that. No more pie metaphors!

Well, I'm going to bed now. Analysts predict that there will continue to be strong 5% growth for the coming decade, as a result of a strong private sector and booming export sector, as well as the development of Indonesia and Yemen into mature economies.

GDP is not the amount of exports you have. It's Private Consumption + Private Investment + Government Spending + Surplus in Exports over Imports Now I am trying to tell you that 5% growth is not much at all. I agree with you on the point of overproduction...in a way. However, I haven't had explosive growth and therefore I don't suffer overproduction. If I sold so many cars like the dot com bubble and all those exports, my GDP would be skyrocketing 10-15%, followed by a slump, but that isn't the case at all. 5% growth is stable growth, which definitely wouldn't affect the economy negatively. Otherwise, you'd think South America and China would be all the way in hell by now.

Can you find an article which states that overproduction on INDUSTRIAL GOODS caused a great depression? All I see is Agriculture, affecting farmers who are already pretty poor. The entire world's financial system works on transferring and dealing with debt. It enhances liquidity, and improves economic growth. If you don't deal with debt, then your economy will probaly expand at most 1% but will be incredibly stable and sluggish. Most world economies go with a different approach: expanding 5 to 6% for a decade or two, then going into a slowdown for a year or two, before going back.

I'll try to respond to your whole post, but I'll have some trouble: Your example which you cite is the Great Depression. Wasn't that caused by a stock market crash, which led to people not going into debt? Debt is good for the financial system, as long as it's managed. If you can provide an example of what you're talking about in real life, then I'll believe you. :P Singaporean officials go on higher alert as reports of small arm smuggling from China come in. Singapore asks China to crack down on these arms dealers. (Don't think you can try to incite revolt Paul)

Jen attempts to hit the beast with a giant geyser beneath it, before attempting to sweep it away in a torrent of freezing water using her ice staff.

Jen tries to heal the shade, before trying to fire the hail and gust of ice at the shade again with her ice staff.

I want to be in the war too, but I don't want to fight Rocco anymore. When we fight, it always goes on for ages and nothing happens. So I'd like to fight with Rocco this time. Then we have to factor in the international reaction...Other than that, I'd like to fight too. :P

Jen tries to create hail storms which float above the shade with her ice staff, and geysers which erupt out of the ground under the shade.

Jen attempts to use the uber attack using her ice staff, which was a powerful gale of icy wind and hail at the shade. Jen makes sure to stay a good distance away from the shade.

Jen tries to make the icicle bigger and move it over the shade's head. She continues putting more energy into it, with her ice staff.

Jen tries to heal Hakon again, while trying to form a giant icicle over the shade. It might take some time, and she'll drop it next action using her ice staff.

Double Post

Well didn't the shade sorta jump-fly? Logically it would slip around a bit.

He's probaly like a Hydra. How did Hercules beat Hydra again? --------- Jen tries to heal Hakon again, then she tries to make the floor within 50 feet of her very slippery with ice magic, to impede its movement using her ice staff. This does not include the three feet around her.

Jen tries to fire a healing bolt at Hakon, before attempting to make ice burst out of the shade's wings.

(Any awesome exp for that prism attack? :D) Jen attempts to recover from the attack.

Jen tries to heal Hakon again, before trying to bind the creature in solid ice using her staff.

Jen fires healing bolts at Hakon, before trying to catch the shade's legs with ice shackles using her staff.

Jen wakes up from her sleep and notices her wounded shoulder. She tries to heal it, before gathering up a hail of ice shards.

The best way to start a serious war is to coax the people on, without involving yourself. :)

Well I'm sure that even if they call each other's leaders imposters and stuff, they could still get together in this dangerous world so that they don't get destroyed. :thumbsup: