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Seems England has this one now. Then again, it's England. We always manage to make a mess of it somehow

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And be even more out of order. Just man up and tell her straight that you don't like her. Don't mention that you only are there for the sex because you look like a [bleep] but I suppose she will jump to that conclusion herself tbh..

Be grateful that you're not wasting ludicrous money on a stupid day.

Why are you bringing a topic that's been dead for 5 yeas back upwards? Introduction thread is upwards..

True but if the guy comes across arrogant, cocky ect i'm pretty sure the girls don't like that either. More on topic: Is there a chance that any of you are musical and would like to explain a concerto to me? My ex started making this when we were going out and is still working on the second part/main version of it for some reason..

Or you can totally [bleep] it up and make the girl really question why she should go out with an arrogant sod. Tred carefully with that, you can easily over do it

I sound like a broken record, but go out and meet new people. A new group of people to hang with, with new females [and males]. This will help you leave behind things that remind you of being sad, and give you new things to be interested in. Inevitably you'll find yourself liking new girls. Yes.. it seems January is the month for relationships ending as that question has appeared the most in the past few weeks and the advice is always the same. You're problem lies in your dependence upon her for your happines so a good thing to remember is that you can always do better. You're young, you have a good life ahead of you filled with other girls who will make you even happier than Sidney did so don't get hung up on her. Learn from you're mistakes and move onwards by following what RPG said. Don't talk to her. The little sand castle you've built in you're head to block out the memories will get knocked flat by the tidal wave of emotions/memories a conversation can cause. All it takes is a spark and you will find yourself back at stage one of getting over her, probably more depressed and sorry for yourself than you previously were.

If the girl has feelings for another guy her feelings for you won't be a solid as they should be. If she cared about you and the relationship she should realise how damaging a 3rd person and feelings attached can be and therefore put the other guy out the way. However, she obviously hasn't done so and can be seen to be playing you, keeping this guy on a string just incase your relationship falters and keeping you there so she has a back up plan incase this guy moves onwards and elsewhere. Also if he is a friend he should get some respect and get the hell out of there. So yeah, right choice I think. At the end of the day ending is a better option than be played around, especially when you will find plently of other girls who will treat you much better than she is currently. (Note, all opinion on my previous relationship which ended much the same.)

Soo, you're taking somebody's guide and just making it into a video? Why don't you research it yourself or look through AoW

The answer to that is a risk you have to take. Some will, some won't. But sometimes you gotta dig through a lot of dirt and muck to find your diamond in the rough. Erm, what has happened? Why is RPG speaking all lyrically/poetically and everybody else is debating love or sex and the implications of their actions? o_O

8 months.. It's a long time and uni indicates that your still young so your relationship shouldn't be that serious (this may start a debate.) Just make the most of it while it lasts and I would say definitely try on that trip. great thanks! and yeah, she says she plans to move in with her girl friend which will make anything that hasnt already happened impossible. Hopefully i'll balls up and do something about it in New York city! Well, good luck with everything.

Never say never. No one's perfect, and in some situations is better to take the blame, especially if it truly does rest on you. You can't improve if you assume you're already perfect. Yes, I can see what you mean. But from experience it made the relationship one sided, she controlled everything as every falling out, every problem I instantly took the blame and once one person has complete control of the relationship it sends it crashing down.

8 months.. It's a long time and uni indicates that your still young so your relationship shouldn't be that serious (this may start a debate.) Just make the most of it while it lasts and I would say definitely try on that trip.

Testing us..Okay. "I've been trying to get into this girl." Are you trying to say that you are still unsure yourself of liking her? (I hope it's not a sexual innuedo.) Because if you are still unsure you should look at yourself first before questioning her. Never beginning the conversation: i) She is nervous, how does she act around you when you see her face to face? Quiet and reserved or loud and suggestive? ii) She is expecting you to start it, she is testing whether you are interested in her and is doing that by making you talk to her instead of her talking to you. iii) She wants you to control it. Also: Try and talk to her; see if she wants to meet up alone, go to a coffee shop or something and see how she acts when it's just you and her and if it changes from when you're not in a big group. Also, talk to her friends. Well the trustworthy ones or they may feed you the wrong line and send you stumbling down the wrong path.. Yeah 'getting into' is like a British way of saying 'getting with' etc. Like I said, when we actually talk, I normally have to start the conversation, but when we do talk, she seems really outgoing and laughs a whole lot, even when what I say or do isnt particularly funny. When we are in a group, She seems a lot quieter. She has quite a few 'girlfriends' of whom some of which I'm really friendly with. I also think a few of the group of friends we hang around with or onto me, and bring it up on occasions, never anything nasty, but sometimes try to force her jokingly into seeing me etc. I think this has creeped her out slightly. I think the 'perfect oppertunity' is coming up too, as college are running a 6 day NYC trip, which we are both going on. Would you recommend making a move there or what?' @ThePerfectsett thanks, I'll try to notice these things and tell you guys what I find out. yesterday, we went into town and we were fine around each other. she then met her girl friend and went to the pub for some drinks, whereas I stayed in town. i then got a text from her, which was her friend telling me she was upset that I kept texting her and wanted me to stop. I was down for a few minutes, until the girl text me telling me it wasnt the case and assuring me she still wanted to talk. she was laughing a lot. I don't fully understand, so thanks :D Hears a word of advice that rings true in any situations. Girls at the best of times are complicated and Men with our simpleton brains will always struggle to understand them. And tbh, the more you try to understand them the more complex and confusing they get so it's best avoiding trying to understand them. At the end of the day a question you need to ask yourself, do you value your friendship more or the potential relationship? Do you have more to gain from losing or more to lose from gaining? (Basically will the positive outweight the possible negatives.) If the answer is yes, you will gain more than you have nothing to lose so just try it. If you get rejected take it in your stride, everybody at some point and there are plently more out there. Then try towards the end of that trip. If you try at the start of the trip it will really ruin the trip and make everything slightly awkward and allows you to surely make your mind up on what she feels and what you feel (if she rejects your advancement that is.)

Testing us..Okay. "I've been trying to get into this girl." Are you trying to say that you are still unsure yourself of liking her? (I hope it's not a sexual innuedo.) Because if you are still unsure you should look at yourself first before questioning her. Never beginning the conversation: i) She is nervous, how does she act around you when you see her face to face? Quiet and reserved or loud and suggestive? ii) She is expecting you to start it, she is testing whether you are interested in her and is doing that by making you talk to her instead of her talking to you. iii) She wants you to control it. Also: Try and talk to her; see if she wants to meet up alone, go to a coffee shop or something and see how she acts when it's just you and her and if it changes from when you're not in a big group. Also, talk to her friends. Well the trustworthy ones or they may feed you the wrong line and send you stumbling down the wrong path..

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Yeah a few minutes after I posted this, I realized I messed it up. I have two options: 1. Explain to her that things kinda sorta didn't go that smoothly and it was my fault. And I'd actually call her, none of this facebook nonsense. 2. Forget about her. She's sarcastic and I would be the one holding the window open. Thanks guys (: Neversay it was always your fault because it probably wasn't just your fault. Plus it allows them to walk all over you. But yeah, you will be walked in upon at some point be it friends or family so enjoy the moment instead of being paranoid. Your family would mostly likely laugh at you for a while, unless they're strict about relegion or age or something bizzare.

And that is why I avoid the RSOF. If the post doesn't make sense then they are complaining about the person trying to start a 'logical' debate. Then again, a logical debate on rsof is rare.

Wouldn't say dramatic.. Just grounded for the next however many months until summer it is, a 5x increase of what it was originally. And I'm confused, how can somebody still think/pretend/act like a guy is blindly in love with them when they've turned around and said "I don't love you" directly to them and then went and asked out two other girls the next day? Love throws all logical explanation out the window.

Eurgh, bottling was the wrong option.. Very wrong option. Then again none of my friends helped, just set about insulting her and offering to beat up her new boyfriend. Yes, some of my friends possess the intelligence and maturity of pre evolution humans.

Okay. Never listening to that by choice again.

Erm what. 3 hours? Any girl I know would've been tired/angry ( okay girl depedent there )/frustated/out the door within 15 minutes let alone 3 hours of trying and failing or maybe she has the patience of a saint. But, please tell me you mean something else? If not, well maybe get some doctoral advice as i'm sorry to say, that isn't normal :/ Regarding snow days.. my school doesn't shut for anything as well. It took a fire and health and [cabbage] advisors to shut my school which was two years ago.. On topic, today I had school. Primary/Secondary/Tertiary protein structures isn't the easiest.

I'd really have to wonder what it was before answering that question. The fact that she's hitting on your friends would make me [in your shoes] not want anything to do with her, including pleasantries such as birthday gifts. Though from my current perspective, I kind of want you to accept it because she did put time and care into it and I'm curious as hell as to what it is. Might be a nice keepsake that you could look back on years later and hopefully remember the better chunks of the relationship, rather than your interactions as of current. Yeah.. I'm curious about what it is as well. She went a bit mad when she realised that she left in right in front of me but me being me didn't realise what it actually was. Well, will find out in 8 days. I hope as hell it's not another cuddly toy as that can just be burnt >.>

To break this questioning of rpg.. My ex wants to give me my birthday present which she made while we were still going out. She's says she's put a lot of time into it and still really wants me to have it even though she is off galavanting with one of my friends. Should I get it or not?