The argument presented here defines well why I have so much top-40 pop music on my iPod. Easy to listen to, fun in the car with friends, and catchy. As for elitist music attitude/troll things going on here, I don't find any benefit in thinking my music tastes are superior to those of anyone else. As a matter of fact, I feel the same about my food tastes and clothing tastes; the combination of my opinions makes me myself, even if I have a lot of similarities with other people. We're all biologically very similar, and it's only natural that many of us would have similar tastes. We also like to fit in, which is why a lot of people follow mainstream tastes and pop culture. tl;dr second part: I listen to pop music, eat out at chain restaurants, and wear name brand clothes. That doesn't make me better or worse than anyone else IMO. I understand people are alot lazier today and not everyone has the attention span to listen to an 8 minute song. I don't have an elitist view, I just have a passion for music. Another thing that bothers me is when people think just because a song is popular it automatically means it must be good, and how some people have the nerve to have Eminem or 2pac in a top 5 rapper list, when they blatantly aren't giving anything else a spin. My brother is like you Fluffy I was making a playlist for him on itunes and he declined Floyd/Zeppelin but put The Fray on his ipod, and that's fine with me, his loss. I've been less caring about what people listen to now because it's a pointless cause, at the end of the day people are going to listen to what they want. I'll give you laziness, to an extent. It's all in ease of access, and people tend to turn to the many pop music radio stations. As for short attention span, it may be true, but again, it goes back to ease of access to shorter songs on mainstream stations. After you claim that your views aren't elitist, you say people have "nerve" for going with the mainstream artists, and then present an anecdote on how your brother rejected your music and it was his loss. Your music was mainstream at one point in time and still has a strong following to this day. Although your tastes aren't current mainstream, they're still far closer to mainstream than things other people listen to, and the longevity of the artists you listen to (the ones you just mentioned in the quoted post) proves them to be mainstream. If your previous posts in this thread were all ignored and only your most recent reply was considered, you'd have a chance at showing some credibility until the final paragraph, where you destroyed all credibility for yourself by essentially saying your opinion is right and others aren't entitled to their own opinions. Your attitude problem is the only "pointless cause" I see here. Well I'm sorry I have a greater appreciation of music than most people do apparently? Also, they became popular along time ago before the music industry took a complete 180 turn. Anyone still looking at charts to find the best music of today is sorely misguided. That is an antiquated system of measuring music that is no longer valid. Who honestly still buys cds? Probably only young kids who idolize random celebrities that caught their attention. That is why you see the likes of Katy Perry and Lady Gaga dominating the charts. The hip crowd that is plugged into the really good underground music scene (where the best stuff is) generally download all of their favorite albums. Also, I'm not saying music today is bad only majority of the radio/top charts. There is a lot of great music out there today... A LOT of great music. You just have to scratch beneath the surface a bit.