Thai_tong

People in dgs seem to be very against using tokens on xp

Pointing this out before someone else does. That's their current rank in game; it's not ment to be in descending order. Take a look at this page about all the way down: http://forum.tip.it/topic/244419-200m-in-all-skills/page__st__9680 He means their order of time is wrong. I forgot buyable paperbag is always last

5. S U O M I : 5832 (-105) 1. Elias : 6420 (-42) 2. Telmomarques : 6865 6. Elvis (previously Nintendo Swe) : 7565 (-10) 3. Jdelacroix : 7644 (-15) 9. Zarfot : 7725 15. Skiller 703 : 7785 (-2) 4. Allar (previously Skiller - Aasiwat) : 7897 7. Drumgun : 8009 (-78) 14. Kngkyle : 8281 (-25) 8. Tezz : 8374 (-15) 10. Kingduffy : 8389 (-45) 12. Green098 : 8657 (-19) 13. Gertjaars : 9141 11. Paperbag : 9773 Skiller703's time must have gone down so little because of the way he got rc/agil/combat xp

Im waiting for nomad to say suomi should finish melee at green drags https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjYYOmjSUrCwdHFXNWg5bjhyNnQzM1pPc2NybG9aTkE&hl=en_US#gid=0

He is slaying normally now. Cave crawlers are brain killing and difficult to do for long periods of time. I'm surprised he got 15m slayer xp there although I was hoping for more :P Did you not see, "He also hasn't been gaining slayer exp either so he must not have gone back to normal slaying either"? Or is Sockem missing something? He is missing something. If you look at his runetrack he has been gaining slayer xp

This He is slaying normally now. Cave crawlers are brain killing and difficult to do for long periods of time. I'm surprised he got 15m slayer xp there although I was hoping for more :P

I notice that wiki's list of monsters' weaknesses says that earth warriors that are weak only to air spells and giant skeletons are only weak to fire spells, you didnt mention that in the celestial staff section did you forget to mention it or is it just wrong?

What a coincidence. I was doing livid farm when I read that :)

Including adze? Also on the cave crawlers, I had previously thought of using helm of neiz instead of slayer helm for attack,str and prayer bonus but the biggest drawback is the antipoison risk. I hadn't thought of equiping a slayer helm to overload then switching back to neiz though, that's a god idea

Checked it and it is NOT better

Interesting. I'm trying to think of possibilities to use this to decrease the theoretical maximum hours. barrage crawlers --> melee crawlers --> mine/smith separately barrage crawlers --> melee somewhere else --> mine/smith separately barrage on defensive --> atk/str at crawlers or somewhere else --> mine/smith separately (unlikely) mining/smithing separately would be key here unless it's worthwhile to kill crawlers past 200m atk/str/def/range Good to see someone is testing barrage. I get the feeling that chaotic maul is better than chaotic staff for more cannon damage. I think that barrage would be better than chins because you can still get high attack bonus. Also, it is worthwhile to kill them past 200m in most cases.

When it is gained by a bot, yes it is no time, since you do not spend time playing the game. You have to play once per week after the system update! Jk but waiting for a slow bot to gain 800m xp is harder than it sounds. Bots are very slow

How can someone bot so much and not get banned. Reminds me of Zarfot's vids where he played on stereotypes of top players, like them getting so much xp per day by botting and abusing dungeoneering bugs

Even better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeA7j3gcPY4&feature=feedu Well I think its better. I need to check it though

I've never player wow or other mmo's but what makes it so un repetitive. As far as I know wow is 90% combat so I'd imagine maxing to be killing orks for hours on end. OT: Elias has done 15mil slayer at crawlers so far and he's been at it for a month

Make a copy of suomi's calc. put a 0 in I8 and E11 Put a 0 in D29 Put a 0 in all the time left for members skills Delete the dugeoneering ratios at the bottom Put in your own xp rates It should work then

Would be a horrible slay task, no cannon/multicombat, no improvement on xp rates +full of vine bots (soon)

Good catch, I didn't even see that he wasn't on there; 5. S U O M I : 5937 1. Elias : 6462 2. Telmomarques : 6865 6. Elvis (previously Nintendo Swe) : 7575 3. Jdelacroix : 7659 9. Zarfot 7725 14. Skiller 703 : 7787 4. Allar (previously Skiller - Aasiwat) : 7897 7. Drumgun :8087 15. Kngkyle : 8306 8. Tezz : 8389 10. Kingduffy : 8434 12. Green098 : 8676 13. Gertjaars : 9141 11. Paperbag : 9773 What about Lan? He must be around 8500 as well I guess. How you calculate this actually? Sorry I kind of rushed through it while mining. Link to the calculator in my sig Wb drumgun

adventurer's log time is more important imo

exactly also the worse slayer gets the more realistic crawlers gets. Yes and there isnt much that could make slayer better that wouldnt make crawlers even better Well, a 6th block(for 300+ qp) and the jadinkos being assigned+being fast xp and effigies would do the trick, aswell as the whip add-on being genuinely useful(as it wouldn't affect crawlers much anyway). True. I guess a non cb update like a better agility course would make crawlers worse too

exactly also the worse slayer gets the more realistic crawlers gets. Yes and there isnt much that could make slayer better that wouldnt make crawlers even better

Yeah then people finish off combat after slayer and get loads of effigies which leaves drumgun and tezz way behind and people say wtf tezz's time is waaay too far behind make him finish rc at crawlers ect. Either include effigies up to agility or rc or don't include them at all.

Refernce to my time calc in Suomi's interview :razz: 5. S U O M I : 5937 1. Elias : 6462 2. Telmomarques: 6865 6. Elvis (previously Nintendo Swe) : 7575 3. Jdelacroix : 7659 9. Zarfot 7725 14. Skiller 703 : 7787 4. Allar (previously Skiller - Aasiwat) : 7897 7. Drumgun :8087 15. Kngkyle : 8306 8. Tezz : 8389 10. Kingduffy : 8434 12. Green098 : 8676 13. Gertjaars : 9141 11. Paperbag : 9773 Unforunately I can't say how much their times reduced by because I included troll invasion and changed the firemaking method. Elias is gaining on suomi since he is training slayer in the "best" way. It is interesting that when I first had 1 of these time comparisons suomi had a 2k lead on everyone- allar being in 2nd place and now it is down to 525

Suomi fanboy vs dragonseance fanboy. Who will win?

Tezz got 200m hunter edit: also Lol'ed at this in Langers update