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no no no... see you don't get it. There's 4 steps to this process: 1. We sell them the guns. 2. We wait to see where they pop up. 4. We confiscate the guns. #3 is when they commit a murder with the gun we trace it back to whoever bought it. Genius!

Does not cause schizophrenia. If you are already genetically predisposed to schizophrenia it can make it worse/compound it/whatever. Also, this is assuming that you are actually talking about friends getting clinically diagnosed with schizophrenia and not that they acted weird a couple times when they smoke. It's just not as big a deal as people are making it. It makes for a funny/embarrassing news story, but it isn't that big of a deal.

If the Cartel are using weapons and ammunition illegally bought from shops in which the ATF authorized illegal sales, then yes, the blood is on the ATF's hands. There is no way that the blame can be placed, or for that matter, reduced by any degree, anywhere else but on the ATF. It's not like it's hard for Mexicans with cartel connections to get guns from the US. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us/26borders.html?_r=1 It's not like the ATF did anything that can't already be done easily enough.

Weed doesn't cause schizophrenia fyi

All supported by (mostly) the US citizens :wink:

The Milgram experiment was not a game show. It was an experiment in obedience. Can we stop the arm chair psychology?

Zimbardo's experiments aren't justifications, they're explanations

It's an isolated incident in that soldiers aren't going around killing people willy nilly, it was just these guys, but the article does say that there was another platoon possibly doing similar things (and that it likely will come under investigation). Then you have the issue of stuff like the Collateral Damage video pilots not being punished, or the UN helicopter that ripped some 13 year old boys to shreds with machine gun fire that they dismissed as an "accident". I believe he called it the Lucifer Effect, I'm not sure how well it does or doesn't fit this case though...

Whenever someone brings up "well if they had a gun..." or guns are bad or guns are good, thread = derailed. See post above mine to see where this thread is now heading

No one is saying all soldiers are perfect. But this is a pretty big mess

Yeah, there are definitely legitimate uses, like defending yourself/your family. Knowing the way you post, you're probably going to tell me that a handgun, a can of pepper spray or a phone call to 911 would suffice, but from personal experience, that's not always the case. I grew up in a rough part of St. Petersburg and there was a string of really violent home invasions in which victims were raped, maimed, shot at, and even decapitated by a gang of armed criminals. So yeah, there are some non-sketchy scenarios in which a Kalashnikov would come in handy. Aaaaaand thread successfully derailed into oblivion

A marijuana topic would devolve into stupid stuff and go on WAY too long, while this one will lose steam by tomorrow. The gun running topic was weak anyway, this one is much better and is actually relevant

To my knowledge, regarding the driving bit, DWI's already cover driving while using drugs. There are in all likelihood laws that cover drugs in public already too They masterminded this botched infiltration attempt as a way to disrupt Mexican drug cartels' ability to obtain guns. Without such strict drug laws in the US, these Mexican cartels wouldn't be so prominent. Or, you know, you could have added SOME content to your OP to steer the topic

Drunk driving deaths aren't alcohol deaths, they're alcohol RELATED. Alcohol wasn't what killed them, if they just drank the alcohol they wouldn't have died, their choice to get in the vehicle and drive drunk was what killed them. If someone died by driving their car off a bridge while high, it wouldn't be a marijuana death, it would be marijuana RELATED. There is nothing inherently dangerous about marijuana, but if you pair it with other variables it could be, but so could virtually any other item in the world. Also, I'm not sold on marijuana use being marijuana abuse. What is the the function of marijuana then, if getting high is a side effect? Alcohol's function is to get drunk, so I don't see how that could be any worse than marijuana

To the first part, from what I've read, if you use a vaporizer then you get rid of the bad levels of carcinogens from lighting marijuana and smoking it, thus removing the cancer risk. The second part really reminds me of I believe John Stewart Mill's thoughts about rational law. Those being that the government shouldn't be able to tell you not to do something because it will harm YOU, but only if it will harm OTHERS.

Pretty hard to prove that. Actually, it's pretty hard to prove (read: impossible) to prove the marijuana kills people. But if you can do it, by all means go for it. Think about it though, if we assume that even a single person died from it in the past 2 decades, the media would be all over that [cabbage] spouting how bad marijuana is and look at our youth and blah blah blah.

Arizona legalized medical marijuana. One state legalizing it under strict rules isn't what I was talking about. I remember reading about pharmaceutical companies manufacturing synthetic marijuana to sell as well, funny how weed is supposedly bad enough to make illegal, but beneficial enough that pharmaceutical companies mimic it (I imagine that regular old weed would be a lot cheaper than the stuff they're making)

America should really reconsider some of their drug laws...oh wait, making weed legal would hurt pharmaceutical companies

Hahaha my favorite bit

My guess is new developments or something, again I'm not fully through the article, but from what I remember of the one last year they never had pictures My posts were dripping with sarcasm, incase you couldn't tell. No I couldn't because usually there is either at least one ultra-patriotic [wagon] who genuinely believes the stuff you said, or a troll who tries to get a rise. Good to know it was sarcasm

Your trolling skills are just pathetic. Seriously, I realize this is a runescape forum and all, but that's all you could come up with? HOWEVER, I wanted an opportunity to post this and I guess now it's kind of relevant because of your pathetic troll attempt Smedley Butler, - By the end of his career he had received 16 medals, five of which were for heroism. He is one of 19 people to twice receive the Medal of Honor, one of three to be awarded both the Marine Corps Brevet Medal and the Medal of Honor, and the only person to be awarded the Brevet Medal and two Medals of Honor, all for separate actions. - at the time of his death the most decorated Marine in U.S. history

So guesses on when America will pull out of the middle-east? 5 years? 10 years? Never?

SUPPORT ARE TROOPS! It's nothing new, but the more instances of this that are reported and are made into big stories the better.

Thank you for your incredibly insightful post on this topic. It's appreciated.

So someone remind me again, why exactly is the US still the middle-east?