Glacors are 3m an hour and were 50k rc xp an hour or so It's not a matter of whether or not Jagex actually played, it's a matter of whether or not they actually understand what's going on from a player's perspective. And they do not. They don't and they haven't since the days when Andrew used to visit players in game and ask for input. As has already been mentioned, while nerfing effigies pretty much had to be done (one supposes), they way that they went about doing it, without so much as a warning, without providing an alternative training method, without at least mitigating the issue, in some way, prior to or during the nerf, merely demonstrates this point even further. Sure, nerf effigies. Ok. But throw us a fricken bone here!