thats too complex for limits and what I can do.. with that animation I have to draw each frame to make it not look like a loop, which I probably wouldnt be able to do anyway... It'd need more then 30 k can't do too much to make it look smooth in 30k, I had to cut down the size and frames (6 to 5) in my last animated one... I like my sigs to be unique in their own way, and not be too similar :P while im at it, I already have 10 orders to work on so IM CLOSING UP SHOP UNTIL AUGUST 3RD! all requests, including this one im afraid will be rejected. :P