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  1. Welcome!

     

    I's still learning my way around the clan section so please forgive me if I put this in the wrong forum.

     

    We have a fantastic clan community and are running a tourney right now.

     

    Feel free to look around and enjoy. :)

     

     

    (Clan mods please feel free to put this where it belongs. I didn't want it to get filled with the ib4l posts of general.)

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    That actually confuses me. Without having hell as a consequence for not following God, I see no reason to even bother following it. I mean, you could take all the good parts out and create a philosophy on it, but wouldn't be the same as a religion.

     

    Hell promotes a morbid fear of God. In contrast, a person who learn the truth about God and comes to love him will grow to have a healthy fear of him. Psalm 111:10 says something along the lines that all that fear God love him. This fear of God is, not abject terror, but awe of and profound reverence for the Creator. Basically it should give us a healthy fear of displeasing him.

     

    The concept of "hell" in the Bible (insofar as the New Testament is concerned) is referred to (if the word is even used in a particular translation, as use of the word hell is decreasing in newer translations) as a place separate from God, a place where there will be "much weeping and gnashing of teeth." It's common conception of a fiery place of doom comes from the existence of "Gehenna," which was, if I remember correctly, a physical place on earth where garbage was thrown into and burned.

     

    Common theology has most definitely expanded on the Biblical conception of hell. Sometimes I wonder how we came to our current conception of it.

     

    Spot on.

    In Jesus day, the inhabitants of Jerusalem used the Valley of Hinnom as a garbage dump. They threw the bodies of criminals into this dump and kept a fire constantly burning there to dispose of the rubbish and the carcasses.

     

    The ancient Egyptians believed in "a fiery hell." Than later some Jewish sects addapted the belief of a soul living forever, sayin "bad souls go to a dark and tempestuous den, full of never-ceasing punishments."

     

    If I recall correctly, these beliefs infected Christianity around the second century C.E. and into the middle ages as justification of religious purging.

     

     

    One more non-trolling question:

    If God is all-mighty (?), why doesn't he just get rid of hell and the devil and such?

     

    (I am not religious, I don't go to church or anything, haven't read the bible or any religious text, but I wouldn't say I don't believe in Him or anything, I just don't worship. But I have a friend who is christian, and we talk about this kind of stuff once in a while, and he hasn't really given me a clean answer. I'm just wondering this.)

     

    That's kinda Christianity 101. Basically, when Satan deceived Eve/Adam into thinking she had the right to rule it brought into play an issue of Universal Sovereignty (FF Spell check ftw). God could have just wiped Adam and Eve and started over but that wouldn't be loving nor would it have proved that God has the right to rule. This is because not only Adam/Eve/Satan where watching, you had the angels as well. So God right now is letting mankind learn the hard way that as God, he has the right to rule.

     

    It's very similar to a parent who tells his kid not to touch a "glowy red circle" on the stove but the kid keeps reaching for it again and again. A parent very well may let the kid touch it so that the it can learn.

     

    Guess thats how my brain connects it. God doesn't just undo it because that would just prove whos the strongest, not who is right.

     

     

     

    (Oh crap, I started religion rambling. <.<)

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    The point of me talking about it being the foundation is that the foundation shows it's an extreme religion. Sure people have dulled it out, but that's only because they're not following their own religion, which is likely to get them sent to hell anyways (making following the religion just useless imo). Your analogy is incorrect, which is why I'm not going to go too far into discussing it.

     

     

    For a religion to teach hell in the way it is common in Christendom today just shows how shaky the foundation of it really is. The doctrine that hell is a place of torment is not based on the Bible. Rather, it is a pagan belief masquerading as a Christian teaching.

     

    Just saying, hell, imo, is the prime example of scripture being taken out of context to promote a "truth."

     

    I know it's not directly on topic but seeing that comment made me cringe.

  4. There is no way to do this without heavily breaking runescape game rules.

     

    Therefore it is agaisnt the rules to discuss it here

     

    Exactly. Feel free to ask for help on this forum but take the time to make sure it reads smoothly. XD

  5. Sports guy, I know you can support your opinion all day but there is a time and a place. If you feel something is wrong, a threads fine. Repeating a thought over and over again in a thread with subtle hints of past isn't. Lots has changed over time and if you have a thought, again pm the crew leader.

  6. For crew, there is a few different "types" of user posts. You have submissions, confirmations, regular comments and suggestions. Each is handled differently and is more of an acquired skill the longer the crewbie is around. All in all, if you disagree with a lock, send a pm to the crew leader, cowman_133. It isn't taken as a bad thing as long as the pm is constructive.

     

    The same goes for mods, if you disagree with a lock, pm the mod or an admin. :)

  7. Much of the discussion taking place is borderline harassment on this players playtime and real life circumstances. Walk a mile in their shoes so to speak.

     

    We want Tip.It to be an enjoyable place for all players and if said player was reading this thread in the current light it would be very offensive and hurtful.

     

    I don't want to lock the thread as I think there is more to be discussed, lets just all try to refrain from "couldn't live with myself" comments.

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