thanks guys, some interesting points! My guess was that I'm just on a lucky run (it's about time :-) but asked the question because it was consistently more of one particular drop. I'll keep tabs on it and update as I go along. To add to the related topic of probability of other rare drops, the more time you spend killing one type of creature for a rare drop (say fire giants for a d med) the better overall chance you have of getting that drop, but it doesn't impact the chance of each individual kill. So after killing 5000 fire giants your chance of getting a d med on the 5001st is exactly the same as killing the first. But obviously the longer you spend there the better chance of eventually getting the rare. [edit] I'm basically saying the same thing here as swamp jedi above, just without the numbers :wink: For the record I've killed slightly over 12,000 fire giants with my only d med drop coming around about the 4,000 mark. I've had every other type of drop from them except the half d shield