Apparently being hit a 75 in one turn, which is difficult to survive if the pker knows what they're about, and being hit a 108 (dbow spec w/ extreme ranging, though that too is rare) is where the line is crossed. The prospect scares people. Le sigh. I can't express my disappointment enough with this nerf. Yeah I see where you're coming from, but in real life in a battle, if you got hit in the head, it only takes one hit to kill somebody with a blow to the head. The darkbow got nerfed with that update, although still do get hit pretty hard, but vengeance and getting a spec ready can't be that hard surely? I always wanted a berserker potion that boosts your strength and attack but lowered your defence. IMO Overlord should be all the offense attributes, but go down to like 50 defence in return.