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at least 40 range mage doesnt matter i coulnt do it even with 65 mage. 43 pray is essential. Dont even think about meleeing the demon you will die he killed me the first time i tried i mage prayed then meleed with full torags on he was still hitting alot of 22's through my 70 def and over 300+ in all defense bonuses.

Umm idk i did the whole quest with no food but a 70 range 74 def and black dhide. The monster was really esay. I would bring like 15 lobbies though getting the arrows is where you get hurt the most. Also pray from meele you dhide protects from mage better then it does melee.

Fire giants using the south eastern safespot because there is no obstical beetween you and your target. Or blue dragons there is no obstical there eather.

yes i know rcing isnt ground work its actually my favorite skill(ive done my fair share 61 rcing takes alot of nats). But you said that it isn't an option with 1 def.

Prolly around 25. They dont dissapear when you shoot them so you can repickthem up again during the fight.

Dude you do relise making steel plates is wasting money. 1k steel plates is 10k coal and 5k iron that is 2m right there you can buy around 7k yew long alchs and still have 900k left over if you just sold all those ores.

If you ecto you are wasting your time. Just go on the rs offical fourms and find someone having and open house and you there guilded alter. Its only 350% more xp with all burners lit but about 20times faster then ecto.

Just because the fourms has disscussions on rs bots doesnt mean that the game has anything to do with cheating on rs we are talking about games here not sites. You dont even have to ever go on the site to play the game. and eww wow is so boring and a waste of money. Its like super repetitive

If you buy all your nats 310ea and all yew longs 600ea. You would only lose 142k per 1k alched so this is really the best thing to do. If you make you nats or yew logns you would make some profit.

the only problem is i added wrong you would lose 142k per alch but you would still get 190k alchs i think. because 8m/142k is 190 somthing then you have to times that buy 1000 so i think im right.

my bad i dont know why i though 310+600 was in the 800's lol ive done this on two posts now im so glad someone found that out. But this is why the best thing to do is buy ess and make nats and then just by the yew longs with the price of bowstrings and logs these days making them only saves you like 50gp.

Ok well in my opion there is three choices for range training. 1. Train on a monster mabey alternate beetween hellhounds(do some level 3 clues) and fire giants(they drop stuff makes it interesting) 2. Play at a slow moving pc world with red chins that still wins everynow and then but takes like 5min a game. The best was to use chins is dont was any because they are about 850ea but wait untill there is a huge pile of moster in one square and throw it at them trust me this takes some practice. 3. Join a pc clan like heartunit or affliction. Use iron knifes and avas accumiltaor durring the games it will prolly only take you arround 4.3k tickets for 99 range this would take about 20 day or so mabey faster depends on how long you play per day. This is by far the fastest way mabey alternate between pc and killing monster for levels. Please dont comment me and be like omg hell hounds and fire giants are horrible blah blah blah blah blah.....they are just my Opinion on what is good the main thing is train on a monster it does have to be those.

I didnt realase ---------- was a cheatsite but the game is not. Another game is guildwars even though u need to buy the disks its 100% free once you have them. Its a 1 time fee of 50$ if your wondering.

It seems to me like you better make some money 1k alchs costs around 810k if you want to get supplies without wasting hours yew longs cost 600ea nats 310ea they alch for 768ea so you lose 42k alching 1k bows. If you alch less the 1k of something at a time it will take you more time to get supplies then it will to alch the stuff and you basically get no xp. So first before you train mage i would make about a mil or 2 it will save you time in the long run. Your best option is buy all the regular ess 30ea that it will take to craft airs to 44 rcing and then do it if you sell all the airs 12gp ea you will make more then all of your money back. Then craft nats till you have 1.4m in profit made. This will allow to have a fast money making method and also allow you to buy 2k yew longs and 2k ess and alch yew longs in lager quantities also you will be able to make your nats and make a 68-58gp per alch profit.

its like 2 hours to get 1k about so 6hours of playing.

If your going to play a mmorpg the play rs its better because it has waymore up dates and there is more to do the just quests.

Stuff to bring -best dhide you can wear. -bronze pickaxe mith weights less but bronze will do -Boots of lightness if you have them -Sara book if you have it(if you lose it yo can get back with all the pages) -bring a 1 click tele(ecto teletab anything will do) -A charged glory -when you first start out or have low def use a ring of life when you get better you should switch to a ring of dueling its more useful imo. suggestions -only bring 1 click tele pouches and ess in your inventory -have 10 or more glory's and move you house near legends guild or have games necklaces -walk untill level 2 wildy then run the rest of the way untill you get to the place where the alters are and there are no more monsters then walk all the whole time untill you are back the the level 2 wild part this will save energy -do not panic if there are pkers normally there spells will splash only tele if you are entagled or iced if you get tbed run to mage its better then running to the bank again. -I had somthing eles but i can remember now Good luck rcing ill get you a screenshot of the best route if you want to see it

well sorry to break it to you but basically every skill that you can do with one def is repetitive basically all of rs is repetitive(or grunt work as you call it) really the only things that aren't repetitive are barrows and clue scrolls its the random chance of getting something good that makes it fun and slightly un-repetitive.

plates alch for 1200ea

I dont really know but if money isnt and option then buy all the gems and gold bars that you can and make ammys out of everything.

how can you think the fm cape emote is bad i think its cool you can make fire in the palm of your hands. The hunter cape is soo depressing its brown and blackish and the emote uses a brown cage with black steel on it.

I dont think that cannon balls is all that fast if you buy the steel bars you not really making all that much money all that fast.(sry for using all all so much.)

well you cant do the major big money makers nat crafting and barrows with 1 def so I think that bowstrings would be the best way using a skill. But if not the law run in w66 or mabey minninng pure ess casuse they can be sold for 115ea now easily. Minning rune would be another one of the good ways but you dont have 85 minning or access to any good rune minning spots excpet the wild(witch isnt good casue of lame pkers that pk skillers.)

bloodvelds because there is a safespot and they have 120hp each i think. Or I would goto fire giants thats how i went 60-70 range at it took me about 3 days 40k xp should be a breez.

definatly a dragon long with rune defender but if you are just getting members dont expect to just get a rune defender its not that esay.