darkmage099

thats not the point hes making. the point is the only basis for the statement is a book 2000 years old that may or may not be fiction. a book their belief is based on. and it is written in that book that their god gave them the land. don't forget that this is about religion. i read both, the bible and the koran. it is interesting to compare both and it helps you understand. it is islam vs christianity. let me throw a word in there : holy war Thanks for throwing out every argument you had. With that logic, who are the arabs to say that Jews don't belong there? thanks shadow, that's exactly what i would have said aha, they were there first.... so why exactly are there reservations for native americans in america? i mean...... they were there first so it is their land.... :roll: alright first of all god did not legally give them the land okay. It only did if you are a believer of that faith which the whole world is not so technically god did not legally give them the land. If he did can you please show me the papers? And actually it is the native american's land. Did I say it wasnt? Apparantly, there has been agreement with the Natives and Americans. Also that happened centuries ago so...(times have changed). bolded part: yeah a book their belief is based on. So let me ask you. If i "beleive" that my faith gave me the right to bomb the world does taht make it okay because my faith is somehow "Gave" me the right? NO! Whered Christianity come from?!?!?! holy war? yes we had the crusades already lets try to keep this civilized. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL OTHER RACES/GOVERMENTS WHAT TO DO! thats waht imeant when i said no one has jurisdiction over the world. Because you cant tell Irans government to "stop" waht theyre doing and they will. You cant tell the Israel gov't to get out of the Middle East. No one has the power to do that. i g2g to my hockey game now illpost later

they were there first thats the logic it was their land first...(yes it was isreal b4 it was palestine but the isreal people left)

just because it reminds you of it does not mean that it will happen

humanity is stupid...

God promised the land to one of the prophets. May have been Abrahim. That's why they believe it their land. Educate yourself on the subject before posting. yes well ibrahim (what muslims call him) also had a son named ismael so technically isaac and Ismael should *share the land* but the israelies left the land so that makes it the muslim people's land no one has jurisdiction over the world (yes you may say god does but thats if you believe in it)

media lies a lot okay. wouldnt that make us as "barbaric" as we say they are? you know you can end this peacefully do you wanna live in the desert? there's no reason for them to leave their land (promised to them by god). they have the right to stay where they are. how would you react in a situation like this okay katha go get the papers from god with its signature and prove to me god gave them the land. oh wait you cant prove it! how do you know god gave it to them are you some kind of prophet. im sorry if you are but i highly doubt it You called me "buddy" - it reminds me of Dane Cook. Anyone who's familiar knows where I'm going with that. The BK Lounge, eh? Anyway... I prefer to not wait for genocide before I counter it. Personal preference, I guess. eh sorry mate idk where you are going with it. you dont even know if its gunna happen why dont we try and not predict the future my friend lets not assume

Dude...he doesn't need advice on that anymore. ' okay jeez you dont have to sound like i killed someone

That sounds like you're justifying the wrong-doing on both sides. yes it may sound like that but thats not what i said. I said that its working both ways as in its happening on both sides

ehhhhhhhhhhh thats sick and wrong but i still stand by what i said (stated b4)

i never said that.... i said its happening on both sides who ever said it makes it right...no please state where it said two wrongs make a right...PLEASE QUOTE ME SAYING THAT okay next time dont assume (if thats what you did) or read(which i think you did but i could be wrong)

:shock: :shock: wheres the bank in lumby!! :shock: :shock:

That would seem to be the point of that line of politics, the same way the various Israeli laws applying to Palestinians are meant to drive them away from their homes. I really fail to see how forcing people to flee their own country because they're persecutd by the force of the law can be considered humane, ethical or just plain sensible. well israelies are pushing palestinians out of their home and Iranians are pushing non muslims out so it works both ways

omg! thats what ive been saying that its not the Isrealy people's rightful land! i dont think you understand the picture. see, they put the word "jew" in blue, in reference to the small sliver of land called israel, which is also in blue. the green "our land" words references all the green marks on the map, which is where the muslims control. it is funny because muslims are the major religion of a large part of world, but are very upset about that little sliver of land there. \not funny when you have to explain it. okay so they fight back about a small peice of land. Well let me ask you...If someone took over a small part of your house (lets say a small bedroom) would you fight back? its the muslim people's rightfl land you cant blame them for fighting back and Iran is just trying to help Palestine. Yes im sorry the Muslims cant share. Would you share your house with somebody who just knocked on your door...no they dont even knock...but come in and settle there while others are already living there? Its just not right i think america needs to fight if they want. the govt over in those countries are whack, and they will probably never open their minds. so while peaceful isralies are being attacked by the muslim world, i dont see why we shouldnt attack the bully (if war occurs). We're having enough trouble in Iraq. We can't handle to go to war with any country that passes laws we don't like. Anyways, I don't like the law. But it's their country, not ours. Just curious, but wasn't it that type of attitude in the 30's that led to millions of Jews being slaughtered by Hitler? yes, that was the attitude but even so we cant predict the future buddy. Apparantly there has been no slaughtering yet and we cant assume there will me. History repeats itself but come on....you cant say for sure. Now if the do kill them or what not then we can declare war but we cant do anything until we see where this is going. yet again we cant assume this is nazi-jew thing all over again.... we shouldnt care until we see where this goes if the non-muslims dont like the law they can leave if they really want to im not saying they have to. Jews were not allowed to leave Germany or Poland. My mistake for the WWII part but still Poland was part of the beginning of German power and it gave the West a heads up so what if they produce nuclear weapons...US has it...israel has it Yes welll Israel is an Oasis (i think) and regardless...you actually prove my point you said "some of the land there is not being used" well then why dont Israelys move there?

If you want to get serious like an actual relationship then id listen to the other guys but if youre looking for you know a relationship just for fun (i hope you know what imean) then go for it you have nothing to lose really. It sounds like you have good friends.

ah man, ive been wanting to use this picture for so long, and you set it up perfectly :P and i would just like to point out while bush does gain money from this war, he is definently not the only person to. and in past wars, there are always people who gain money from them. yeh well they arent taking over the land they are foreigners in the land thats not the same thing as taking over a whole nation and basically saying "get out we rule this place our capital is here" yeah well hate to break it to you but our world is mixed with different races including Jews Yes, they may be in those green areas but they are also all over the world so frankly I pretty much think thats irrelevant. yes too bad the nazis slaughtered the Jews and the Iranians didnt slaughter the non-muslims so its totally different. Its just a badge and really is it any of our business about the laws of different countries. we dont live there. Should we care? if the non muslims dont like the can beat it and get out. And we didnt declare war on the axis powers because of the Jews. We did it because of them taking over Poland and the bombing of pear harbor

Israel hasn't gone psycho and declared one nation to be wiped out, has it? okay 78 times bigger that just makes proves my point I never said Iran is being rational. Israel and U.S. are being unrtaional just as much as Iran.

I also believe that the affairs of the Middle East are non of America's business. Its all about the $ for the Bush Administration. One thing I would like to point out is the fact that a lot of the Iran "stuff" got started about the nuclear weapons. Israel has nuclear weapons and is half the size of Iran (if not smaller) yet the U.S. hasnt done anything agains them.

If you really are here only to make "good goverments", why does your goverment cause millions of dead civilians and why are they getting so well along with goverments that are criminals too? Look at Israel (which you said is peaceful) for example. They are breaking human rights as much as Iran, yet you are giving them a lot of help. I already told you about the marriage law, but if that's not enough, we can look at other things too; * Smallest country in the world to have a nuclear weapon. If you want to get an image how small, think this: there's over 7 million people in London and 6.4 million in Israel. * Most of the water goes to a small jewish minority (85% to 30,000 dudes, 15% to 3 million dudes.) while a lot of muslims are gathered to camps. Do we need to remind you camps like Auschwitz Birkenau or Dachau? * At last elections, it was even at our newspapers that people from west Jerusalem had the right to vote. Is this and those camps really democracy? Is that marriage law democracy? * Their old leader Ariel Sharon was as much of a criminal as Saddam Hussein. You can google info on what happened at Qiby in 1958 and who was behind that. Also Sabra's and Shatila's (spelling might be a bit different in english) slaughters should be mentioned, after all 1000-3500 civilians died there. Btw those were refugee camps and there was a lot of women and children. USA doesn't go to war to help human rights or spread democracy, they go to war to gain personal goods. I don't accept what Iran has done, but I don't accept either Israel's or USA's actions. i second that *much like my post* ...also i hope "yomom1919" reads this

i think america needs to fight if they want. the govt over in those countries are whack, and they will probably never open their minds. so while peaceful isralies are being attacked by the muslim world, i dont see why we shouldnt attack the bully (if war occurs). We're having enough trouble in Iraq. We can't handle to go to war with any country that passes laws we don't like. Anyways, I don't like the law. But it's their country, not ours. i second that

O my gosh...These people are not gonna slaughter non-muslims...they wont. Secondly, the governments arent really "whack" just a little close-minded (like you...no offense). PLEASEEEE, peaceful Israel? Uh huh, well guess what? THE MUSLIMS WERE THERE FIRST! Yes, I hate to tell you but the muslims are fighting for their land. The land belongs to Palestine and the other countries are just helping their brother out. PEACEFUL ISRAEL? If they were peaceful they would have left and understood that the Muslim people were at that location first. How would you feel if someone kicked you out of your home and just moved right in? Attack the bully?!?!?! Well let me ask you...why is America at war with Iraq anyway to push Sadaam out of power? Yes, we accomplished that...Why are American troops still there? I understand the badges are wrong but come on...Thats just a little..well wrong but still. I think if America steps in they will be the bully. They have no business there. I think the U.S.A. just wants oil or it's Bush's family problems (desert storm or what ever). I'll post later.

got my post back sorry for the confusion

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^^ :lol: ^^ looks like we are reading the same crystal ball ^^ :lol: ^^

my friends are cool some people are jerks some people are nerds so id say thats average?

you wanna know what i hate? i hate that you carry on a normal conversation and half the freaken thing gets cencored! like for example i just got back from barrows and i say "yeah, i got 60 bloods 120 chaos and 1k. its like.... come on they do need to do something about that horendous filter its ruining part of the game. id rather people curse me out *ignore* than have half my convorsationg *******<-- ending up like that