I have a 112, 94, 91 and my 76 pure mage you have what?. I can make 300k an hour at thugs, if your a newb why post your oppinion, you clearly have no idea what your talking about. Moss giants are lousy xp, i trained my 91 from 44-88 there and it sucked. If you bothered to read my guide you change to p2p at 40 40 1 melee stats, this isnt a f2p guide. Next time you want to make ignorant newb comments go make an account at rune village. Edit: Just looked you up, my main has TWICE your total xp, my rune pure has the same ammount, my other 2 accounts have a little less, ALL of my 3 melee accounts are higher combat then yours, but i guess you know more about training then me einstien. That's a burn on so many levels...and thanks for the input back on the training time. Don't forget to mention deaths and chaos you get from the thugs :D,even though they are in small amounts.Useful for mage none the less :D