its all mine but the face only because i want to get the robes etc done befor i worry about the face incase i have to change anything. and i never really drew anything with details befor so this is what i have i can see what i want in my head but i just have not learned how to put it on the computer yet :wall: but i see what you mean the stance looks alike but my plan is to have him raise the staff casting a guthix spell so thats why i chose to have him like that