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Ross likes to heap massive advantages onto his people though.

Because his people are all soldiers. <_<

Oh yay, another overpowered advantage for your race.

Just want to note the realism for a 20% reproductive rate. The reason humans don't reproduce that much is simple: 2 people can only make... say 5 or 6 babies before the womb becomes scarred and makes it dangerous to give further birth. Coupled with gestation period and overcrowding, we end up with 8% (in some parts of the world). Now, compare that to Lichtes anatomy. It is a cross between a mammal and a fish. It doesn't really lay eggs, but just a bunch of live spawn. This is far less damaging to the body. In normal conditions, less than one spawn survive every year, but due to increased technology, around 1 survives a year. Now keep in mind human governments have been attempting to control the birth rate to prevent overpopulation, but for the Lichtes government, that is not the case. Since it is such a warlike species, it requires a large population growth simply to stay in the positive. (In fact, the population has been declining on the homeworld due to the fact they were being slaughtered on Earth.) That's realism at its best, and special "fusion" technology has nothing to do with it. :P Also, I can't wait till the next round ends. Pf Germania has a 40%+ growth rate.

You have a few more multi-trillion dollar death stars that cost billions to fire?

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So, I think nobody has space supremacy, considering both mine and the NWO's fleet were pretty much annihilated that turn. Oh, and Ross' Ares cannon hehe.

They're just static fortresses essentially. They're heavily armoured and armed, since they don't need to worry about mobility. Long-range missiles and a few fighter squads, as well as anti-missile defenses (like Ross' goalkeeper stuff). As well as the E2S missiles, which would probably destroy a fair number of fighters and a couple of ships, due to the ships being distracted with the battle and everything. (and the thousands of fighters buzzing around them blasting their anti-missile defenses). The thing is with Helios Orbs is that while they may be good against ships, they're such easy targets against fighters. They have extremely limited mobility, and no point defense, so even if 300 were deployed they would likely all be destroyed in the opening round of combat.

Actually your Carriers don't really count for much, probably 100=10 battle ships. But yeah, if you just want to go for standard annihilation tactics then it breaks down like this(at the moment): Ross: 2 Super Heavy battleships 20 Heavy Battleships 45 Battleships 3000 Fighters(Converted from Helios Spheres) Dusty: 7 Heavy Battleships 58 Battleships 2500 Fighters +15 Battlehips from Carriers so 73 in total) Forgot about this because of the Helios stuff. Carriers are defensive fortresses. They don't have the offensive capabilities of Battleships, but they're extremely hard nuts to crack. And it my fleet would be something like 45 Heavy Battleships, 2 super heavy (Brazil's), and the rest regular (Bulgaria's). There's also the two massive space battlestations I have there, E2S Missiles, and the 1000 or so E2S fighters. How did he jump from 250 Fighters to 3000 then? Helios orbs can't be "converted" into fighters, because they lack the armour, maneuverability, hardware, engines, and pretty much everything that makes a fighter. A converted Helios orb would be little more than an ARC laser thrown out of an airlock, with a little thruster that allows it to move at a snail's pace. Eh whatever, just calc the battle Arch, I think we've both given our sides and positions.

Sending out my non-essential personnel isn't going to stop my ship from moving (a cook doesn't pilot the helm), that was mostly to point out the silliness of saying that shoving an ARC laser out the airlock somehow makes it a space fighter. And when I was talking about moving, I was talking about the fighters.

This is making less sense by the minute.

Alright, I'm sending out expendable crew members with space suits and ion hand held weaponry. My fighter force has been bolstered by around 12,000.

Except they only move like 1 mile per hour. And if they're actually being converted, then they can't be used. Since the battle is already taking place. It would be like me saying I'm sending out people in spacesuits with pistols and saying they're fighters anyways. They're not fighters.

What? And if we're going to go with classes to Battleships then all of mine are Heavy.

25 trillion? What? There's no way you've spent 25 trillion on the things, as that was like 50 turns of your income. Also, my pilots can't turn apparently? Where did the ships come from anyways?

Were they part of the original attack? Bulgari'a Fleet uses Ion cannons which can blast through regular hulls, their fighters are the same as mine. Basically, the Ion cannons are pretty much the same capabilities as ARC cannons, just a different three letter word (name). Doesn't really matter how advanced they are, you're firing weapons that don't have self-correcting attributes. One of those things shoots and misses, that shot is going to keep going until it hits something, friendly or not. And my ships were designed to defend specifically against yours (well, the NWO's, but you all have the exact same weapons), so neither of us have an advantage. It basically comes down to numbers.

Bulgaria's ships use ion cannons. And no, Helios orbs are not capable offensive weapons. They're slow, ungainly, used as static defenses, and the friendly fire would be just as prone to take out your ships as it would be mine. 33 Germanian Battleships (with Dirithanium plating) 141 Germanian Carriers Around 2000 Fighters At least 2 Brazilian Super-Battleships 25 Bulgarian Battlecruisers 5 Bulgarian Behemoth Class cruisers 150 Bulgarian Fighters So, 67 Battleships + 250 Fighters vs 35 Battleships, 141 Carriers, 2150 Fighters, and 30 Battlecruisers + E2S Missiles & an additional 1000 or so E2S Fighters. My fighters also carry nukes (probably 1 every 10 fighters, due to the cost).

I just do what I am told. But as far as I can see the Holy Empire is providing 50 million, and Kamino is providing some people, as well as Malaysia....To be honest if they are drawing on all resources they could probably generate another 50 million, but then I would have to say that they have pushed a bit too far. Also the forces on the Boarder were dug in, so your advantage was somewhat negated. Additional to that was the employment of mine fields. The border wasn't where the main assault was though. 30 million troops to break one border region (fail to see how digging in can stop an assault like that) and then circle around. Also, you could just ask about defenses, as you did with Ross before when we had the last space battle. I think the results should be re-calced for this space battle. Also, if they're pulling troops from all the NWO countries, then how is Egypt defending itself? Kamino doesn't really have a military either, and the only military stuff that Kamino has is on Mars. And I sent you the Bulgarian Fleet's numbers a while back.

? My ships would be sticking close to Earth, since I had space supremacy. I had two massive space battlestations there, the area would've been covered by my E2S missiles, E2S Fighter coverage, and half of Bulgaria's space fleet was there (not to mention Brazil's ships). I don't quite understand how 67 Battleships and 250 fighters (not counting Helios orbs, as we have already discussed that they're not feasible offensive weapons) managed to take out: 33 Germanian Battleships (with Dirithanium plating) 141 Germanian Carriers Around 2000 Fighters At least 2 Brazilian Super-Battleships 25 Bulgarian Battlecruisers 5 Bulgarian Behemoth Class cruisers 150 Bulgarian Fighters So, 67 Battleships + 250 Fighters vs 35 Battleships, 141 Carriers, 2150 Fighters, and 30 Battlecruisers + E2S Missiles & an additional 1000 or so E2S Fighters. Besides, where did these Battleships come from anyways? That's nearly the entire Aether fleet, and if they were near Earth, then how are they blockading a planet lightyears away? Also, how did Sere's military strength somehow grow by 100m+ in the last turn? And if it did, how did those civilian militias managed to defeat Germania's 80m regular highly-trained troops equipped with the best military gear in the world? Not forgetting how Russian partisans would join on my side as well. Also not really sure how Britannia would manage to advance at all during that round, considering they were under attack by roughly 100m troops. Can you explain how you got these results? Because it doesn't really make sense to me.

*is giddy with anticipation*

:grin:

Cannibals aren't a monster species.

If only it had found oil on the moon, then we'd be an interstellar species in a couple of decades.

It's a virus that'll delete system32. OH NOES

I don't mind that you've shared that Arch, since like you say it's been 4 turns now so everything is all shuffled up anyways :P Also, what do you mean when you say 53% is loyal to Sere? He's only had Russia for around 4 years, and only a few dozen regions in Russia for that whole time. One would think that the parents would have more influence over their kids than the governement :P And Mather & Retech - the game is on pause until Monday, so no progress at all.