The Dark Lord Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 So what are you? Closed-minded or open-minded? I'm just wondering if you are and what you feel about it. I, personally, am open, but how about you? My views on closed-mindedness: Stalin used this to his advantage in Russia by making people ignorant and believing what he says. He didnt' want someone to get a wave of open-mindedness in which could be a threat to him. My views on open-mindedness: Very useful and a fun way to learn about something. You don't necessarily have to believe it, but it's good to hear from all sides instead of sitting in a corner throwing random stuff at people to defend yourself, but you are facing an inevitable defeat. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Too open minded for my own good, except on one or two things where I'm close minded. I'm like a sponge, soaking in whatever I can. I wanna visit all 7 continents, I wanna experience every culture, I wanna read every religious text. I just want to melt myself into someone else's culture. I'm always asking questions. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGotGrapes Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'm real openminded and ready to try new things, but there's things that I really just can't accept. 2 dudes, hippies, people who criticize the president on CNN(i'm a Republican, and it made me made when they did it to Clinton too, I think it doesn't give off a good image for the country.), just stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'd concider myself open minded. I'll listen to what anyone has to say and hypothesise and evaluate for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocobodude0 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Close-mindedness (sp?) will only lead to having other people alienated from you, and will also leave to a life that lacks intelligence, enlightenment on life itself, anda hatred that will destroy you from the inside out. Open-mindedness (sp?) however, will let you see the world for what it is, be it good or bad, and enable you to be able to understand life from all sides. And only then is when you truly lived. ...IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'd concider myself open minded. I'll listen to what anyone has to say and hypothesise and evaluate for myself. I hate to be the barer of this, but you aren't exactly "open" to a religious viewpoint. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'd concider myself open minded. I'll listen to what anyone has to say and hypothesise and evaluate for myself. I hate to be the barer of this, but you aren't exactly "open" to religions. Explain why and I'll listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'd concider myself open minded. I'll listen to what anyone has to say and hypothesise and evaluate for myself. I hate to be the barer of this, but you aren't exactly "open" to religions. Explain why and I'll listen. A few of your threads turn into huge religious wars, and you're always involved. I'm not saying you bash, but the Macroevolution thread seemed to be an instigation, not that it was intended by you to be. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'd concider myself open minded. I'll listen to what anyone has to say and hypothesise and evaluate for myself. I hate to be the barer of this, but you aren't exactly "open" to religions. I think he is referring to your comments on religious arguments. However, I've noticed that you would be open toward a kind of religious-scientific hybrid discussion. Like I did stuff like that, and no one questioned me. I ask something in the form of a question then I ask another. Then I explain a fragment of my religious beliefs in a very thought out way. It includes philosophical questions and religious views intertwined with scientific views. Explain why and I'll listen. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'd concider myself open minded. I'll listen to what anyone has to say and hypothesise and evaluate for myself. I hate to be the barer of this, but you aren't exactly "open" to religions. Explain why and I'll listen. A few of your threads turn into huge religious wars, and you're always involved. That's hard to respond to, to be honest. Ok, bleeding heart time. I don't hate relgions, thier messages, thier followers or the fact that they require faith. I can entertain the idea of a creator, possibly one from the major religions. I'm not going to just say no, you're wrong and my way of thinking reigns supreme. In regards to some of my topics turning into religios flame wars, believe it or not, I like to hear what everyone's views on the supernatural are. I don't get off on telling people how stupid they are or people telling each other how stupid they are because thats... stupid :P And my interest in evolution no doubt ruffles some feathers. So be it. I, personally, would like to find out what the truth is and I believe that science is the only way to do that. Some people believe the answer is in sacred scipture. No big deal, seriously. I realise not everyone thinks like me. If some other theory for how we got here comes along and is reflected in nature (i.e. nature at present reflects evolution. You may see creation and attribute it to design, I see specified genes and attribute them to natural selection) then I'll throw away evolutionary theory without any qualms. I know I'm an open minded person and I genuinely am interested in why people believe what they do. I'm just weighing up the options and I'm always willing to listen to what people have to say. That's mainly why I made the macroevolution topic. To give it a bit of a plug, I'm interested in hearing what barriers would prevent speciation. In no way did I intend to phrase it like 'accept it because it happened.' See what I'm getting at? That's as honestly as I can put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGotGrapes Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'm Roman Catholic BUT I do believe in evolution to a point. I mean there's just too much evidence, I think that there has to be a God, and I think that God made the Earth and everything there is, it's hard to explain how I feel but like I think God made everything on Earth and did everything for a reason. I don't think we came from monkeys, but I do believe God made monkeys first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Who would actually say, "I'm close minded?" It has such a universally bad connotation to it. Open-mindedness doesn't exist. It's just a neat phrase people can use to make themselves feel like better people. No one is open minded. It's all just varying degrees of close-mindedness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'm sure close-minded people don't realize they're close minded, and open minded people just label themselves open minded because they think they're unique enough that they have the rare ability to form and come to informed decisions/conclusions themselves. I've gotta start making my sentences shorter. >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I'm sure close-minded people don't realize their close minded, and open minded people just label themselves open minded because they think they're unique enough that they have the rare ability to form and come to informed decisions/conclusions themselves. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Who would actually say, "I'm close minded?" It has such a universally bad connotation to it. Open-mindedness doesn't exist. It's just a neat phrase people can use to make themselves feel like better people. No one is open minded. It's all just varying degrees of close-mindedness. Everything is varying degrees of something, from race to personality. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Who would actually say, "I'm close minded?" It has such a universally bad connotation to it. Open-mindedness doesn't exist. It's just a neat phrase people can use to make themselves feel like better people. No one is open minded. It's all just varying degrees of close-mindedness. Everything is varying degrees, from race to illness. Of course it is. But it's varying degrees of close mindedness, not open mindedness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Who would actually say, "I'm close minded?" It has such a universally bad connotation to it. Open-mindedness doesn't exist. It's just a neat phrase people can use to make themselves feel like better people. No one is open minded. It's all just varying degrees of close-mindedness. Everything is varying degrees, from race to illness. Of course it is. But it's varying degrees of close mindedness, not open mindedness. You could also say there's no such thing as sanity (or is it the other way around? :-s). It seems this philosophy is pretty much universal. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You could also say there's no such thing as sanity (or is it the other way around? :-s). It seems this philosophy is pretty much universal. There are a lot of things in this world that you could say, most of them, like your example, are irrelevant. Why is someone who is so open-minded as you pretend to be, so hell-bent on arguing with me about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You could also say there's no such thing as sanity (or is it the other way around? :-s). It seems this philosophy is pretty much universal. There are a lot of things in this world that you could say, most of them, like your example, are irrelevant. Why is someone who is so open-minded as you pretend to be, so hell-bent on arguing with me about this? Not arguing, I'm trying to propose a possible philosophy. If anything, I'm agreeing with you. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Not arguing, I'm trying to propose a possible philosophy. If anything, I'm agreeing with you. So you agree with me saying open-mindedness doesn't exist? Even after you said this: Too open minded for my own good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Not arguing, I'm trying to propose a possible philosophy. If anything, I'm agreeing with you. So you agree with me saying open-mindedness doesn't exist? Even after you said this: Too open minded for my own good No, I agree with you now. I didn't know that when I posted that. People can change their minds when they learn something new and agree with it. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 No, I agree with you now. I didn't know that when I posted that. People can change their minds. Good. I'm glad you admit that you are close-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Who would actually say, "I'm close minded?" It has such a universally bad connotation to it. Open-mindedness doesn't exist. It's just a neat phrase people can use to make themselves feel like better people. No one is open minded. It's all just varying degrees of close-mindedness. But we use the term "open-mindedness" to get an idea of a lesser degree across with less words, in the same way that we say "cold" rather than "there's not much heat here". It's just the definition. Either way, there's no point in dragging something like this on, so let's just leave it at that, or your response, or whatever, let's just not have a discussion about the definition for three pages :-w . Me, I'd say I'm fairly closed-minded. There was one time on this forum where I acted really open minded (when I admitted my fundamental belief incorrect- we can have free will), but when I did it I felt like my heart was being torn out :lol: . Meh, I'm somewhat open-minded to scientific discoveries and hypotheses and whatnot, but if you even mention the word "religion" or "Christianity", and I'll have my hands to my ears faster than... I dunno, something fast. I'm terrible at analogies, so just think up something for yourself :-w . [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 No, I agree with you now. I didn't know that when I posted that. People can change their minds. Good. I'm glad you admit that you are close-minded. According to you, everyone is so it doesn't matter anyway. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 But we use the term "open-mindedness" to get an idea of a lesser degree across with less words, in the same way that we say "cold" rather than "there's not much heat here". It's just the definition. Either way, there's no point in dragging something like this on, so let's just leave it at that, or your response, or whatever, let's just not have a discussion about the definition for three pages :-w Except that there actually exists, in this world, things that do not have much heat, and are therefore cold. Whereas with this example, nothing exists which lacks "close mindedness" and should be considered more open-minded than close minded. In short: Cold things actually exist. Open-minded people do not. According to you, everyone is so it doesn't matter anyway. Actually, that's according to you as well. Quit pointing fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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