WutangFlu Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Pry? From what i saw, he only had it there a few seconds, although the shot looked far away to me so i couldn't see crystal clear. And it is a instinct to try to get someone off you when they are holding you, for me atleast. And LP, if you are bending down, you would still be on your knees, by bending i don't mean leaning on the kids neck even is just one hand, his shoulder is shifted on the one u see directly = more force on that hand and the kid is plainly in distress, his one arm is out in the air like hes struggling, and if that #1 hand isnt the cops its the kids trying to get it off, probably because hes being strangled to a degree. and when the hell was the last time you seen an officer even lay his hands on someones neck period... edit: he could have avoided this all together by putting his hand on the persons shoulder/chest, or have them sit up right away and have them lay on their stomach, and then proceed to ARREST him for an offense thats ticketable. vision the officer getting on top, and proceeding to place his hand around your neck, its not right... if you think so your completely [developmentally delayed]ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstain Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 If he was using his other hand to, to me we would be able to see the arm, but with not the best angle i can't be sure. Still, if he gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to move on do you think that he wouldn't do it anymore? This way i think he would be scared straight and hopefully learn not to break the law or run from cops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 If he was using his other hand to, to me we would be able to see the arm, but with not the best angle i can't be sure. Still, if he gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to move on do you think that he wouldn't do it anymore? This way i think he would be scared straight and hopefully learn not to break the law or run from cops so ur telling me its ok to harass a 13 year old kid, in such a violent manner. whom was just skateboarding... just to to scare the hell out of them not to do it again? that in itself is abuse, and more or less against the law in its own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstain Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 If he was using his other hand to, to me we would be able to see the arm, but with not the best angle i can't be sure. Still, if he gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to move on do you think that he wouldn't do it anymore? This way i think he would be scared straight and hopefully learn not to break the law or run from cops so ur telling me its ok to harass a 13 year old kid, in such a violent manner. whom was just skateboarding... just to to scare the hell out of them not to do it again? that in itself is abuse, and more or less against the law in its own right. No, i don't think its ok to harass a 13 year old. I think it's ok to use force on a 13 year old, or 19 year old (which ever he was) to arrest them when they are resisting arrest and trying to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errdoth Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 If he was using his other hand to, to me we would be able to see the arm, but with not the best angle i can't be sure. Still, if he gave him a slap on the wrist and told him to move on do you think that he wouldn't do it anymore? This way i think he would be scared straight and hopefully learn not to break the law or run from cops so ur telling me its ok to harass a 13 year old kid, in such a violent manner. whom was just skateboarding... just to to scare the hell out of them not to do it again? that in itself is abuse, and more or less against the law in its own right. No, i don't think its ok to harass a 13 year old. I think it's ok to use force on a 13 year old, or 19 year old (which ever he was) to arrest them when they are resisting arrest and trying to run. The kid who was running didn't get caught, and the others politely complied with the officers instructions. Last.fm Signature Overlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstain Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Right. Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest, and trying to run are polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errdoth Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Right. Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest, and trying to run are polite. Please point out the: "Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest" part. As for running, only the one kid ran, the others just started to walk away. I would still like to know why they were arrested in the first place. The cop should have told them to "Stop and move on, you can't do that here." Last.fm Signature Overlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstain Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Right. Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest, and trying to run are polite. Please point out the: "Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest" part. As for running, only the one kid ran, the others just started to walk away. I would still like to know why they were arrested in the first place. The cop should have told them to "Stop and move on, you can't do that here." When the first kid gets arrest you can hear them swearing, and when the cop has the girl they yell and swear, and the girl clearly started to run but the cop caught her fast enough. And im guessing he did tell them to stop, and that he was maybe fineing them, which is when he gunned it. At the beginning you can hear the cop telling him that he shouldn't have tried running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Right. Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest, and trying to run are polite. swearing an yelling.... police do that, so can the citizen running from the police... yeah, don't expect him NOT to force u to the ground... but as soon as u place ur hands on someones neck that can be considered a threat to life. just like if you were to take your gun out... you can kill with a gun, and that guy weighing 200+ lbs, could have crushed that kids neck with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstain Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Right. Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest, and trying to run are polite. swearing an yelling.... police do that, so can the citizen running from the police... yeah, don't expect him NOT to force u to the ground... but as soon as u place ur hands on someones neck that can be considered a threat to life. just like if you were to take your gun out... you can kill with a gun, and that guy weighing 200+ lbs, could have crushed that kids neck with ease. I highly doubt his intent was to kill the kid or he was putting sufficient pressure on his next to do any serious damage, and like i said before he only had his hands there a few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaquierming Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Right. Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest, and trying to run are polite. swearing an yelling.... police do that, so can the citizen running from the police... yeah, don't expect him NOT to force u to the ground... but as soon as u place ur hands on someones neck that can be considered a threat to life. just like if you were to take your gun out... you can kill with a gun, and that guy weighing 200+ lbs, could have crushed that kids neck with ease. I highly doubt his intent was to kill the kid or he was putting sufficient pressure on his next to do any serious damage, and like i said before he only had his hands there a few seconds. The point is the same thing could have been achieved with a grab of the arm, shoulder etc, the neck was excessive. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-I took the one less traveled by,And that has made all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errdoth Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Right. Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest, and trying to run are polite. swearing an yelling.... police do that, so can the citizen running from the police... yeah, don't expect him NOT to force u to the ground... but as soon as u place ur hands on someones neck that can be considered a threat to life. just like if you were to take your gun out... you can kill with a gun, and that guy weighing 200+ lbs, could have crushed that kids neck with ease. I highly doubt his intent was to kill the kid or he was putting sufficient pressure on his next to do any serious damage, and like i said before he only had his hands there a few seconds. But he even forced the kids that were just standing there, albeit they had been skateboarding, to the ground and treated them the same as the others who had ran and whatnot. Can we all agree, at least, that the cop did overreact, maybe just a wee bit, or will you combat that too, Bloodstain? Last.fm Signature Overlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Right. Swearing, yelling, resisting arrest, and trying to run are polite. swearing an yelling.... police do that, so can the citizen running from the police... yeah, don't expect him NOT to force u to the ground... but as soon as u place ur hands on someones neck that can be considered a threat to life. just like if you were to take your gun out... you can kill with a gun, and that guy weighing 200+ lbs, could have crushed that kids neck with ease. I highly doubt his intent was to kill the kid or he was putting sufficient pressure on his next to do any serious damage, and like i said before he only had his hands there a few seconds. doesnt matter, if i point a gun at someone it doesn't mean im going to kill them... but it still means trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstain Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yeah he over reacted a bit, but we don't know the whole story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errdoth Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yeah he over reacted a bit, but we don't know the whole story True... Last.fm Signature Overlays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I think the cop was in the right. In my experience, most skateboarders are disrespectful and what not. The guy tried running which is against the law, he arrested him. The others tried resisting so he had to get them under control, it's against the law and they gotta treat it like any other law breaking activity. On a lighter note, im surprised that cop was able to catch them :-w I agree. I also think it was quite wrong of someone to post that mans contact information on the web like that. It's also agains the law (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaquierming Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I think the cop was in the right. In my experience, most skateboarders are disrespectful and what not. The guy tried running which is against the law, he arrested him. The others tried resisting so he had to get them under control, it's against the law and they gotta treat it like any other law breaking activity. On a lighter note, im surprised that cop was able to catch them :-w I agree. I also think it was quite wrong of someone to post that mans contact information on the web like that. It's also agains the law (I think). Those are not his personal details, other than his name.. the numbers are for the local police dept. along with the address and fax, they are for the police station. They also have a the right as a citizen to ask for the name of the officer, and do as they please with it. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-I took the one less traveled by,And that has made all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 it may be disrespectful, but it makes a difference and thats what the number is for, to file complaints. just like those "hows my driving... call 1-800 blah blah" numbers. it's been done in the past were a number was put on the internet for people to call. I wish i could remember what it was for though. Wasn't to long ago, less than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitramosma Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 To start let me say that I haven't seen the video (grrrrr Dial-up). Anyway I think from what I've seen (which is mainly that one picture) and heard, the manner of the arrest was probably unnecessary given the age/sex/size of the offenders, but I do believe that the police officer was perfectly within his rights to arrest them in the first place. Skateboarding in that place was illegal and whether laws are justified or not we are still obliged to follow them. My guess would be that the police department decided to take a zero-tolerance policy on skateboarding for that day because they heard of a skate day being planned. The kids should not have run from/resisted the officer. The officer didn't handle the situation in the best possible manner. Final point: When you break laws, you can be arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knives669 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Trust me, I've been to Hot Springs, Arkansas and emo kids skating down the street is the only thing law enforcement in that area have to worry about. :lol: But, it being a boring town does not justify the cop's actions. A grown man has absolutely no right to grab a minor by the neck like that unless he's in danger. Look at the emo kids and then look at him. :lol: He's definitely not in danger. Still, they should have been more respectful to him, and shouldn't have run from him. Both parties could have handled the situation much better. And (please correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think he had any right to arrest the guy filming, unless he was skating too. But, he surely wasn't obstructing law enforcement. :lol: I think that if the cop had been more calm, then the situation would have turned out a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper88888 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Just wondering: What was the cop after them for originally? Because I'd have been really pissed if some jackass cop arrested me for skateboarding, too... Did anyone else notice the phone #? Find a payphone... :wink: Bah, nothing like redneck cops to be slimy lil' [bleep]s, eh? Sorry, corrupt cops just piss me off...They kinda remind me of corrupt P-mods... There is no meaning or truth in life but that which we create for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Man the cop is [bleep]ed up. Mainly the dude who was filming is the worst part, he listened to the cops instructions, did what he said and what was he arrested for? Resisting arrest? Thats [bleep]ed up Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackalope14 Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Man the cop is [bleep]ed up. Mainly the dude who was filming is the worst part, he listened to the cops instructions, did what he said and what was he arrested for? Resisting arrest? Thats [bleep]ed up I thought only the guy that ran away was the one that got resisting arrest. :-k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiriyama Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Man the cop is [bleep]ed up. Mainly the dude who was filming is the worst part, he listened to the cops instructions, did what he said and what was he arrested for? Resisting arrest? Thats [bleep]ed up I thought only the guy that ran away was the one that got resisting arrest. :-k Nope, he lay down, put his hands behind his back and asked "What am I being arrested for?" Officer says "Resisting Arrest" Denizen of Darkness| PSN= sworddude198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesselitton Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Biggy showed my that video. I thought it was stupid of them to run from the cop. I mean geez, that's pretty dumb. But why the hell did he have to go on holding some of them by the neck, yelling at them, and just abusing his powers (imo). They were kids, with skateboards and a camera. Maybe just a warning would have moved them. But.. I don't know the whole story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9OkjRVQs2o&NR=1 That's a good video showing of a man telling people about how excessively cops can be, and it's not punishable to run away from cops if they're too violent. hellbellz is currently gone due to a glitch.// CTET member // Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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