usahellyes Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I am currently working on a goal of 99 ranging. The way I plan to achieve this goal is by using iron arrows and a MSB for slayer tasks. How many iron arrows will it take me to get 99 from slayer tasks? Please do not post saying "Use X Other Item," unless you post details. I am not going to use iron knives, but I am open to suggestions. It is firm that I will do slayer, so no chinning. Money is of no concern. Currently 87 Ranging, My sig isn't accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicrune007 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 1 arrow with picking up gives you around 75xp so probably 120k Iron arrows. Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 I am currently working on a goal of 99 ranging. The way I plan to achieve this goal is by using iron arrows and a MSB for slayer tasks. How many iron arrows will it take me to get 99 from slayer tasks? You will need to use about 97500 iron arrows if you pick them up or about 390000 if you don't pick them up. lease do not post saying "Use _____," unless you post details. .. Well, there are several things that go into the calculation. You earn Range exp as 4*HitDone The average hit is assumed to be MaxHit/2 So the average exp per arrow shot is 2*MaxHit Max hit varies by range level and arrow type. Max hit for Iron is about IronMaxHit = (Range+15)/9 So, a player could calculate the average number of arrows needed, at a given Range level (N) with a given arrow type, to go from level N to level N+1 In your case, you could do that for levels 87 through 99 and come up with the 390000 number above. However, there is 1 final trick to the problem. If you pick up and re-use your arrows then you need far fewer arrows overall. If you pick up 75% of your arrows then you get 1/(1-0.75) as a re-use scaling factor. So, 75% means that we can use each arrow about 4 times. That means that we really need only 1/4 of the 390000 number above, or really only about 97500 iron arrows. I wrote up a post "A range calculation tip" about this method a year or 2 ago but it seems to have vanished from the archive here. Maybe it got lost with the forum re-shuffling. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikraz66 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Just wondering, why arent you using iron knives/darts? They make fire giant, bloodveld, and many other slayer tasks much faster than with arrows (as long as you wear good range armor) and are pretty cheap if you kill monsters with halfway decent drops. Either way, use Ava's accumulator always since it collects the arrows you fire and you don't need to pick them up often. Proud owner of a Quest cape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usahellyes Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 First off, thanks for the informative posts above. Just wondering, why arent you using iron knives/darts? They make fire giant, bloodveld, and many other slayer tasks much faster than with arrows (as long as you wear good range armor) and are pretty cheap if you kill monsters with halfway decent drops. Either way, use Ava's accumulator always since it collects the arrows you fire and you don't need to pick them up often. The reason I don't use them is a.) I can get 2 arrows for every knife and b.) The range. I can't range Blue dragons and other monsters without some maneuvering. I have Ava's Accumulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicrune007 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Just remember that.. if you are using safespot over a certain obstacle, it will not pick up for you Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usahellyes Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 Just remember that.. if you are using safespot over a certain obstacle, it will not pick up for you I know :wink: I'm actually a pretty expierienced ranger, but I wanted to make sure I didn't overbuy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Just remember that.. if you are using safespot over a certain obstacle, it will not pick up for you I usually use the Curse pulling trick to make arrow pick up safe, easy, and fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usahellyes Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 Just remember that.. if you are using safespot over a certain obstacle, it will not pick up for you I usually use the Curse pulling trick to make arrow pick up safe, easy, and fast... Sorry, I'm not familiar with that trick. Enlighten me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicrune007 Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Just remember that.. if you are using safespot over a certain obstacle, it will not pick up for you I usually use the Curse pulling trick to make arrow pick up safe, easy, and fast... Sorry, I'm not familiar with that trick. Enlighten me please? Easy. When you pull a monster from a distance.. you arrows drops all over the place until the safespot with casting curse ( or other spell ), you pull him and wait tilll he reach the safespot, then you shoot Hey Nicrune007 , Whats Your Username? 99 Ranged on 2/6/07 99 Hit Points on 9/5/08 99 Defense on 26/4/08 99 Attack on 14/2/09 99 Strength on 25/2/09 99 Slayer on 13/9/09\:D/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Just remember that.. if you are using safespot over a certain obstacle, it will not pick up for you I usually use the Curse pulling trick to make arrow pick up safe, easy, and fast... Sorry, I'm not familiar with that trick. Enlighten me please? Well, from your safe spot, you just cast a Curse on the monster first. You wait for it to walk over to stand just outside your safe spot and only then do you start to shoot it. That way, all of the recoverable arrows will be in the monster's loot pile, (just outside your safe spot), when it dies. So, you take a step out, gather loot, coins, and arrows from the pile, and then step back into your safe spot. Clean and easy. You don't have to run around a large area picking them up. Sometimes I cast from outside and then run to the safe spot but the key idea is to delay shooting until the monster is positioned where you want it to be. You can use any "get mad" type of spell, of course. Curse is nice because it's very cheap and gives full exp even when it fails. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usahellyes Posted July 19, 2007 Author Share Posted July 19, 2007 Ok, thanks. You also gave me a awesome way to get 99 magic! woot! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 ...You also gave me a awesome way to get 99 magic!... Well, that would be a very cheap way to do it but it would be an endless tedium of clicking. IIRC, Curse can't be auto-cast. It is 29 magic exp for each and every cast, so smart players dress to fail the cast to allow them to reuse the same monster. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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