fakeitormakeit Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I believe in creationism and of course evolution is a part of life (adaptation is proof) but creationism is religion and not science so I think that evolution should be taught, if you want go to a private school like me or CCD. Btw just to clear things up the Pope and the catholic church say science is great as long as you don't use it for evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Creationism isn't science though. Science studies natural theories and evolution fits that, whereas Creationism is a supernatural theory. Teach creationism in religion/philosophy class and keep evolution in the science classroom. The problem is that science is FACT. When a subject such as how we came to be is so highly debated, you can't preach a theory as fact. Now, feel free to put Evolution in theoretical science if you wish, but don't tell me it's the truth. OT: As mentioned in another post, I literally walked out of my Biology class when the teacher started Evolution. She said, "What are you doing??!!??!?!" And I calmly replied "I refuse to learn the lies of those who refuse to realize that the Bible is truth." Religious arrogance? Some would say so. But it had to be done. And, she didn't teach Evolution that year! Went straight to Astronomy...in hindsight, I think I'd rather be taught lies...Man that teacher could've bored Ben Stein to death. Nope, science always involves some degree of theory. You ever learn about gravity, disease or atoms? All involve theoretical components. Science is the methodology to explain facts and come up with theory and more facts. Progressively we begin to know more but theory is an essential element in doing this. Also, evolution is only highly debated in the public sphere. There is no debate as to whether evolution happened at all in the scientific community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperClipsYaaaar Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 The problem is that science is FACT. When a subject such as how we came to be is so highly debated, you can't preach a theory as fact. Now, feel free to put Evolution in theoretical science if you wish, but don't tell me it's the truth. Yet another person who never learned what the word Theory means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril_Max Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Rofl. You do know that "adam And eve" Are... NOT PROVEN!!!!! for 1. And 2 That's religon not science And there 4 even if Eveoltion is a theroy Adam and eve are also. :thumbsup: I admire that you can see these well thought out and written posts and just throw that bit of spam in... You sir have BALLS! although your mind is lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 OT: As mentioned in another post, I literally walked out of my Biology class when the teacher started Evolution. She said, "What are you doing??!!??!?!" And I calmly replied "I refuse to learn the lies of those who refuse to realize that the Bible is truth." Religious arrogance? Some would say so. But it had to be done. And, she didn't teach Evolution that year! Went straight to Astronomy...in hindsight, I think I'd rather be taught lies...Man that teacher could've bored Ben Stein to death. You were suspended for how long now...? That post is stupidity at it's finest. I must say, I pity those who live in the kind of environments this kid does -_-". Oh, and great sig. One of the funniest I've ever seen in my life :lol: . [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navyplaya Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 OT: As mentioned in another post, I literally walked out of my Biology class when the teacher started Evolution. She said, "What are you doing??!!??!?!" And I calmly replied "I refuse to learn the lies of those who refuse to realize that the Bible is truth." Religious arrogance? Some would say so. But it had to be done. And, she didn't teach Evolution that year! Went straight to Astronomy...in hindsight, I think I'd rather be taught lies...Man that teacher could've bored Ben Stein to death. You were suspended for how long now...? That post is stupidity at it's finest. I must say, I pity those who live in the kind of environments this kid does -_-". Oh, and great sig. One of the funniest I've ever seen in my life :lol: . Please, keep your self from learning, but do not keep others from learning. That is completely ignorant. -All sigs by me.[My Gallery] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Please, keep your self from learning, but do not keep others from learning. That is completely ignorant. It's not ignorant, it's arrogant. And yes, what he did was stupid and what he says in that post is ignorant. I don't care if I'm being blunt, but warri0r's got the basic good-hearted explanation down, so I'm telling this kid the truth. I don't care if I appear arrogant for not thinking that Creationism has any scientific value, but this kid's gotta realize that there's a world beyond Christianity. Evolution is a fact and a theory, and as warri0r stated, there's no debating it's validity. Get out of your little hole, see a little light, and try and open your worldview. Before you choose to reject something, try and actually understand it first. As for my statement about suspension, to walk out on science class when the teacher starts on evolution just because the little kid doesn't even understand the topic deserves at least a weeks detention. That's skipping out on class, at the very least. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeitormakeit Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm a faithful Roman Catholic myself and I'm pretty sick of some people just tunning out anything of scientific value, as I said above the church says science is great until its used for evil or life taking purposes but some people these days just won't even listen to reason or learn a thing or two about evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Please, keep your self from learning, but do not keep others from learning. That is completely ignorant. It's not ignorant, it's arrogant. And yes, what he did was stupid and what he says in that post is ignorant. I don't care if I'm being blunt, but warri0r's got the basic good-hearted explanation down, so I'm telling this kid the truth. I don't care if I appear arrogant for not thinking that Creationism has any scientific value, but this kid's gotta realize that there's a world beyond Christianity. Evolution is a fact and a theory, and as warri0r stated, there's no debating it's validity. Get out of your little hole, see a little light, and try and open your worldview. Before you choose to reject something, try and actually understand it first. As for my statement about suspension, to walk out on science class when the teacher starts on evolution just because the little kid doesn't even understand the topic deserves at least a weeks detention. That's skipping out on class, at the very least. You're right, it's supreme arrogance nurtured from a religious upbringing. Poor teacher, must be hard dealing with kids who are so close-minded. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Please, keep your self from learning, but do not keep others from learning. That is completely ignorant. It's not ignorant, it's arrogant. And yes, what he did was stupid and what he says in that post is ignorant. I don't care if I'm being blunt, but warri0r's got the basic good-hearted explanation down, so I'm telling this kid the truth. I don't care if I appear arrogant for not thinking that Creationism has any scientific value, but this kid's gotta realize that there's a world beyond Christianity. Evolution is a fact and a theory, and as warri0r stated, there's no debating it's validity. Get out of your little hole, see a little light, and try and open your worldview. Before you choose to reject something, try and actually understand it first. As for my statement about suspension, to walk out on science class when the teacher starts on evolution just because the little kid doesn't even understand the topic deserves at least a weeks detention. That's skipping out on class, at the very least. You're right, it's supreme arrogance nurtured from a religious upbringing. Poor teacher, must be hard dealing with kids who are so close-minded. You know why the social conditioning leviathan called fundamentalism works? Because they breed the mentality that they know they are right as a matter of fact therefore it's evolutionists who are being closed minded to the truth of the bible. It's the epitome of delusion; the thought of arrogance or closed-mindedness never crosses thier mind. It's only the outside observers that see this. That's my humble observation of the situation anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leila Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 The study of evolution belongs in the science classroom. The study of creationism belongs in the theology classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happybappy Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 If you accept a metaphorical translation of the bible you can believe in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 If you accept a metaphorical translation of the bible you can believe in both. I wonder where biblical literalists draw the line, if at all. Do they believe being born of a virgin is possible? Walking on water? If they call these miracles then why not call the creation of life on earth a miracle and not pretend it's factually true? Answer: because science has worked out the answer and it dosen't involve what it says in the bible. It's known that being born of a virgin or walking on water is physically impossible thus they are called miracles, but the creation of life by a supernatural entity must be factually accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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