Catbert Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 http://www.buy.com/prod/acer-aspire-e38 ... 50637.html This is obviously a great price, but it almost seems too good to be true. I've heard that buy.com sometimes isn't reliable and that they sell used products, I've heard that Acer isn't a very good company, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 About average price I'd say no monitor or independent graphics card and thats a large chuck of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I agree with LP, it's about average. Normal the price would be higher but this computer does not include a monitor. Acer is a good company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I have no idea how decent acer is. I do know that an eqivalent, say HP would cost more because it's HP. But it looks like a solid machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catbert Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 About average price I'd say no monitor or independent graphics card and thats a large chuck of cash.Wait, it doesn't come with a graphics card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 About average price I'd say no monitor or independent graphics card and thats a large chuck of cash.Wait, it doesn't come with a graphics card? Every computer technically comes with a graphics. It how the image on your monitor is displayed. What he means is that the computer has onboard graphics which are integrated into the motherboard. A "real" graphics card would be an add-on card which is faster and will allow you to play games in higher settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catbert Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 About average price I'd say no monitor or independent graphics card and thats a large chuck of cash.Wait, it doesn't come with a graphics card? Every computer technically comes with a graphics. It how the image on your monitor is displayed. What he means is that the computer has onboard graphics which are integrated into the motherboard. A "real" graphics card would be an add-on card which is faster and will allow you to play games in higher settings. Yea, its called integrated I thought :s people told me to avoid it. It doesn't say integrated there though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 About average price I'd say no monitor or independent graphics card and thats a large chuck of cash.Wait, it doesn't come with a graphics card? Every computer technically comes with a graphics. It how the image on your monitor is displayed. What he means is that the computer has onboard graphics which are integrated into the motherboard. A "real" graphics card would be an add-on card which is faster and will allow you to play games in higher settings. Yea, its called integrated I thought :s people told me to avoid it. It doesn't say integrated there though For that price, it is. I wouldn't really say avoid it for normal computer use, like if your using the computer for office, and internet use. If your going to be playing games, then it should be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catbert Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 About average price I'd say no monitor or independent graphics card and thats a large chuck of cash.Wait, it doesn't come with a graphics card? Every computer technically comes with a graphics. It how the image on your monitor is displayed. What he means is that the computer has onboard graphics which are integrated into the motherboard. A "real" graphics card would be an add-on card which is faster and will allow you to play games in higher settings. Yea, its called integrated I thought :s people told me to avoid it. It doesn't say integrated there though For that price, it is. I wouldn't really say avoid it for normal computer use, like if your using the computer for office, and internet use. If your going to be playing games, then it should be avoided. As someone who has limited knowledge on computers, I have to argue. The video card is not integrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 About average price I'd say no monitor or independent graphics card and thats a large chuck of cash.Wait, it doesn't come with a graphics card? Every computer technically comes with a graphics. It how the image on your monitor is displayed. What he means is that the computer has onboard graphics which are integrated into the motherboard. A "real" graphics card would be an add-on card which is faster and will allow you to play games in higher settings. Yea, its called integrated I thought :s people told me to avoid it. It doesn't say integrated there though For that price, it is. I wouldn't really say avoid it for normal computer use, like if your using the computer for office, and internet use. If your going to be playing games, then it should be avoided. As someone who has limited knowledge on computers, I have to argue. The video card is not integrated No you're wrong, its integrated. Stop trying to argue when you have know knowledge of PC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltb2006 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 About average price I'd say no monitor or independent graphics card and thats a large chuck of cash.Wait, it doesn't come with a graphics card? Every computer technically comes with a graphics. It how the image on your monitor is displayed. What he means is that the computer has onboard graphics which are integrated into the motherboard. A "real" graphics card would be an add-on card which is faster and will allow you to play games in higher settings. Yea, its called integrated I thought :s people told me to avoid it. It doesn't say integrated there though For that price, it is. I wouldn't really say avoid it for normal computer use, like if your using the computer for office, and internet use. If your going to be playing games, then it should be avoided. As someone who has limited knowledge on computers, I have to argue. The video card is not integrated No you're wrong, its integrated. Stop trying to argue when you have know knowledge of PC's. No the graphics card isn't intergrated i just checked. It does share ram with the pc,but it is an independent card. So there ya go. As for the pc its not bad value for money,not too great either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WutangFlu Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 It's integrated, -.- Meaning it's [cabbage] that comes with the computer Shared = very bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 The card itself could be independent (like as a pci-e card) but if it has to share ram then it sucks. A normal video card should be independent of the ram for video memory. For that price you shouldn't expect a gaming computer anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomster Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It says: Graphics Controller ATi Radeon x1650se 512MB Semi-shared In reality, that probably means 256MB of card memory, and 256MB borrowed (hypermemory) from the system. Borrowing system memory has been done before (AGP textures / DME), so the only thing wrong with hypermemory is the misleading description. As I understand it, most current cards and drivers are capable of using system memory textures if needed. SE, though, is not a good pair of letters to find on a graphics card, "Special Edition" generally means "Slow Edition" - with lower clockspeeds, lowered memory bus width, slower RAM, reduced pipelines or any other form of crippling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das1330 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It says: Graphics Controller ATi Radeon x1650se 512MB Semi-shared In reality, that probably means 256MB of card memory, and 256MB borrowed (hypermemory) from the system. Borrowing system memory has been done before (AGP textures / DME), so the only thing wrong with hypermemory is the misleading description. As I understand it, most current cards and drivers are capable of using system memory textures if needed. SE, though, is not a good pair of letters to find on a graphics card, "Special Edition" generally means "Slow Edition" - with lower clockspeeds, lowered memory bus width, slower RAM, reduced pipelines or any other form of crippling. Generally only lower end cards share memory, because system memory is significantly slower then graphics memory. Otherwise, your post is correct. ATI and Nvidia have some strange naming schemes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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