Hah, take mainstream out? Then what's the point of the debate about rap music. The thing is, the mainstream music represents the genre. Just by asking us to 'ignore' the mainstream is asking us to ignore the important part of the genre. The mainstream has more impact than some obscure rapper no one has heard about. Your lyrics are cute and all, but you're kidding yourself is the majority of rap is anything like that. The mainstream songs are what truly sets rap is a horrid genre. Get off your high horse. You're no more mature than him by resulting to ad hominem attack. Mainstream does not represent the genre,the kind of mainstream music that nadril is most likely talking about is basically chart music. I mean common is mainstream,that doesn't mean his lyrics don't mean anything. Same with Nas,The wu tang clan. I could make a list. Seriously,who are you? Every post i've seen you make has been a negative one and rayoxide was posting this crap before you even got here.