S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 HELP ME. im not the smartest guy with computers but i made an attempt at looking into it a setup myself, i found myself stumped with it all- theres no way im going to attempt to build this machine so im just going to hand a list like this into my local computer store guy and say "build it or die." what i was wondering is do you think this system is any good? or did i waste 4 hours of my life looking all this stuff up. :\ anyway here it is. Xsonic Case (looks alright..) http://www.microtrade.com.au/images/xsoniccase.jpg ECS K8T800 Mboard Socket 754 64bit VIA chipset ( k sure thing :) ) 2x IDE 2x SATA, 6x USB2.0, 8x AGP, 10/100 LAN (donÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t know what these are lol) AMD Athlon64 3000+ processor with heatsink & fan. (cheap and fast, right?) 512Mb Ram DDR PC3200 Generic, (..yeah) 160HDD IDE 7200RPMSeagate , (my last hdd was this brand (Y) ) 16x Dual Layer DVDRW (LiteOn), 1.44 Panasonic FDD, Chaintech NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 (256mb) http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductde ... C-d3alt1me (I think this is it :S) Polyview 19" LCD Monitor, http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 502&depa=0 (hot..) Multimedia-Internet Keyboard, Optical PS2 Mouse, Speakers. any suggestions people? constructive criticism welcome :) other than that thanks for looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Why didn't you post this on the existing thread you made? http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=217731 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatsilverwyrm Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I would get a CRT monitor, they're better for the same ammount of money. That is, you can get a good CRT monitor for the same price as you could get a mediocre to average LCD> What's your budget? What are you going to be using this for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Why didn't you post this on the existing thread you made? http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=217731because you have bad taste in music. anyways, i have around $2000 AUD and plan to use this machine for graphic design and gaming as well as the usual surfing of the internet and such.. this system is around 1300 i think minus software but i only need a copy of win xp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahVid Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Looks good, make sure your processer is Socket 754 and not 949. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Looks good, make sure your processer is Socket 754 and not 949. :? ohhh ill look into that, thanks. im pretty clueless with that stuff :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 i was looking online at amd processors and what they cost. this online store had them on special, i could get an ATHLON64-3400+ if i added another hundred.. http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?prdid=00010062 would it be worth it? cause im trying to make this system last awhile so i think it would be worth getting a faster cpu and maybe 1gig of ram or something.. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Don't go for socket754. It's an abandoned socket, the one you want is socket939. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Don't go for socket754. It's an abandoned socket, the one you want is socket939. what does that actually mean sir? :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Don't go for socket754. It's an abandoned socket, the one you want is socket939. what does that actually mean sir? :oops: nvm i get it now.. but it seems that the 3000+ has both socket options and the 3400 only has 754 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 god why is there no edit button in this forum :roll: ? oh well i guess the 3000+ is betttr anyway- i can always upgarde it later if i stick with 939 mobo right? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exarch Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Do not get that video card (FX 5200). Not only is it from the last generation of GeForce cards, but it is at the BOTTOM of the last generation. For just over $100 more you could get a 6600GT (like http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 089&depa=1 for example). It is considered by many the best bang for your buck. I myself have a Leadtek one, that I just bought, so I really haven't used it enough to give a solid opinion. I have had no problems with any games I've tried on max settings & resolutions though :P There are some games that the FX 5200 would struggle with on low settings. If you got a motherboard with a PCI-Express 16x slot instead of AGP (two different types of slots that all modern video cards connect to), you would save about $15 on the video card, because they are cheaper in their PCI-E versions. You would also guarantee upgradability in the future, as PCI-Express is slowly phasing out AGP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Don't go for socket754. It's an abandoned socket, the one you want is socket939. what does that actually mean sir? :oops: nvm i get it now.. but it seems that the 3000+ has both socket options and the 3400 only has 754Correct, but there is a 3500+ option for 939 sockets ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Do not get that video card (FX 5200). Not only is it from the last generation of GeForce cards, but it is at the BOTTOM of the last generation. For just over $100 more you could get a 6600GT (like http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 089&depa=1 for example). more like $300 AU more :S i dont care about running games smoothly at ultra high detail :? and just from reading the reviews of the FX5200 it seems that card gives out alot of bang for its buck too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Do not get that video card (FX 5200). Not only is it from the last generation of GeForce cards, but it is at the BOTTOM of the last generation. For just over $100 more you could get a 6600GT (like http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 089&depa=1 for example). more like $300 AU more :S i dont care about running games smoothly at ultra high detail :? and just from reading the reviews of the FX5200 it seems that card gives out alot of bang for its buck too.It depends on what you mean with "alot of bang". I wouldn't be caught dead playing modern games with it, but I suppose it's enough if you're on a workstation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 23, 2005 Author Share Posted March 23, 2005 Do not get that video card (FX 5200). Not only is it from the last generation of GeForce cards, but it is at the BOTTOM of the last generation. For just over $100 more you could get a 6600GT (like http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 089&depa=1 for example). more like $300 AU more :S i dont care about running games smoothly at ultra high detail :? and just from reading the reviews of the FX5200 it seems that card gives out alot of bang for its buck too.It depends on what you mean with "alot of bang". I wouldn't be caught dead playing modern games with it, but I suppose it's enough if you're on a workstation. well, what other options are there? im all for this "future-proofing" thing but surely there has to be an uh- cheaper cards out there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahVid Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 He was talking about, instead of buying a motherboard with the socket 754, but a socket 939 motherboard (It says it, somewhere) and a socket 939 processer with it. I suggest for your computing pleasure mobo - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 052&depa=1 cpu - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 499&depa=1 (GREAT FOR OVERCLOCKING, and socket 939 which can't go on your original mobo, but can go on the one i picked out) Video card - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 038&depa=1 (Comibining cheapness, with the power to play all games on all high, and its the new PCI-Express, which the mobo I picked out uses. I don't think yours does) RAM - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 309&depa=1 (Dual channel = fast, the mobo i picked out supports it.) Thats what I'd go for. A 5200FX sucks, the least you'd want to get is a 5700FX for 110$. A 6600GT can run Doom3, etc. It's cheap, good.. The rest is your choice. It might cost a little more, but it will run alot better. Its your choice if you want to keep your old config, though. Dual channel, which the mobo I picked out support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahVid Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 A side note: A fx5200 can't play doom 3, a fx5700 can, but not that great quality. A 6600GT can play it on ultra high with 42 FPS. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Why didn't you post this on the existing thread you made? http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=217731because you have bad taste in music. Wow, you really hurt me with that insult!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 mobo - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 052&depa=1 RAM - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 309&depa=1 (Dual channel = fast, the mobo i picked out supports it.) I'm not at all for this choice of motherboard + RAM. If you want a 'future-proof' pc, as you called it, you would want either 1GB of RAM immediately, or 512MB on a motherboard with 4 RAM slots, so you can expand to 1GB later. Also, the motherboard (to me) is a no-name one, and the reviews I found were not very good. It also only has 2 PCI slots, and according to one of the reviews one of those gets blocked if you put in a decent PCI-E card (like you're planning to). This just means that you have absolutely ZERO expandability. Also, this is a microATX board, which means it's quite small (which explains the lack of slots for just about everything except USB and SATA). It's also mentioned that video card cooling will be a problem because of the way the board is laid out. This means you may run into trouble running that (rather) high-end video card on it. If I were you, I'd try getting a motherboard from ASUS, MSI or Gigabyte, with 4 slots of RAM, and get 1GB of RAM if you can afford it, and if you can't stick with 512MB dual channel, and get another 512 in Dual Channel later. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahVid Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 True, I wasn't looking much at it. ALSO - if you do choose a new mobo, wit hthat some crap. Make sure its got a PCI-E slot, and a dual channel capability. Try to look for a nforce 4 (ultra) Chipset in it, its the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 thanks for all the imput guys, im starting to get my head around all the terminology after looking around at stuff for 2 days :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 ok ok ok- taking some advice from all of you ive decided to try for the best system i can get with the best graphics card i can afford.. i guess ill start off here AMD ath64 3500+ skt 939 around $400 au mobo thats agp 8x slot compliant $ ??? agp 8x is for the vid card. 1g ddr whatever you call it ram i think around $180 au leadtek nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT 128 $290-320 au http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 206&depa=0 stop me if anything is wrong here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0S Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 True, I wasn't looking much at it. ALSO - if you do choose a new mobo, wit hthat some crap. Make sure its got a PCI-E slot, and a dual channel capability. Try to look for a nforce 4 (ultra) Chipset in it, its the best. http://www2.amd.com/us-en/recmobo/Resul ... 2_869_9460^9461~73649,00.html do i keep looking at abandoned tech or what? but i need a mobo that supports this card right here; http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDe ... 206&depa=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchandeat Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 check if they have anything slightly higher than 128 mb ram... u may need a bit more if ur gonna use a lot of programs. especially xp, its a memory haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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